plan rotation and dimensioning

[helmut]

hi,

we use the new rotate plan feature in 2008 extensively when drawing 2D-sections and elevations, because of course we like to draw them heads-up;

in 12.5 we used layer links to do the same.

now it seems when it comes to dimensioning such sections/elevations (upright on screen, but with rotated plan), the orientation of all dimension objects refers to the original but now rotated coordinate system, not to the display, therefor the numbers are - depending on the rotation angle - often shown on the wrong side of the dimension line and also 180 degr rotated, which means the whole dimension object 180 degr rotated...

ist there any possibility - similar to the deselection of the "adjust flipped text"-feature, to draw dimensions correct according to the rotated plan angle/upright according to display and to keep them static when changing the plan rotation ?

thanks in advance,

helmut

[helmut]

ok,

the following workaround seems to solve this problem:

-- rotate plan to draw all sections/elevations heads-up

-- change to a sheet layer

-- create viewport for each sec/elev that has a different orientation from world coordinate system, which means is not upright on the design layer

-- rotate these viewports to show them upright

-- dimension the viewports (not the design layer)

is this the workflow NNA intended ?

thanks for a short comment

helmut

[mike m oz]

Helmut, a far easier way for a drafting workflow like you are describing would be to reverse the logic. Use internal references (DLVPs) of the plan to create a number of virtual copies of the plan that will automatically update with the changes as you make them. These can then be rotated and cropped as required so that you can then draw your elevations and sections the correct way up.

With a multiple level building you can switch which Layers (storeys) are visible in each of the DLVPs so that you can see what you need to see for the part of the elevation or section that you are working on.

[helmut]

mike m oz,

thanks for your suggestion.

i?m going to try it and compare the two approaches.

helmut

[gScott]

mike,

that sounds almost worth getting VW13 for!!

[mike m oz]

Design Layer Viewports (DLVPs) are the gem in VW 2008. It is worth upgrading for that alone. VW 2008 has much more than that though, and there are many features that make it a worthwhile upgrade. The new interface is pretty good too.

[helmut]

hello mike,

after several tests with different types of projects: your suggestion was really great.

in fact it is almost the same workflow we had in 12.5 using layer links -

but with the advantage of auto-updating viewports.

thanks again !

as far as i understand for such an internal (or even external) reference we can have DLVPs (on design layers) and SLVPs (on sheet layers);

but when working in a BIM environment the resulting section viewports are always SLVPs (on sheet layers) - why this ?

helmut