Vectorworks 2024 hangs when updating landscape area objects

[Gran Mathias]

Hello!

My issue is as follows:

Whenever i try to adjust something on the landscape area objects in my project, the entire program stops responding, as if it has to "update" everything on all the objects.
This is true even when im standing in a view with all layers turned off. The changes made dont matter, it can be a change of the class for the landscape area object, or it can be a change of thickness for some of the layers within.. whatever it is, as long as a change is made, the issue arises.

The updating can take forever and often causes the program to run out of memory and then crash after 30 min or so.

This system is top of the line with modern components, so this makes no sense to me.. "Se photo"
It has been slow before, but newer to this point where im unable to make changes to the objects.

I have tried reinstalling, but the issue persists.
Also, latest video drivers, windows update and Vectorworks version.

The program can also decide to stop responding and leak memory after too many operations without saving. One example of this was that i had visualization active and then activate a drawing under it. Nothing on the drawing would be affected by it, but it still froze the system.

I have tried to search around to look for solutions, but im out of luck here. Is there any way to check whats causing this?

 

[JuanP]

@Gran Mathias Could you please check first if you are running the latest Vectorworks Update 3.1? If so, could you kindly send me the file via direct message for testing purposes?

Thank you,

 

[Gran Mathias]

14 hours ago, JuanP said:

@Gran Mathias Could you please check first if you are running the latest Vectorworks Update 3.1? If so, could you kindly send me the file via direct message for testing purposes?

Thank you,

 

Hello. Thank you for reaching out. I have contacted you through pm.
 

[JuanP]

@Gran Mathias , From our QA team: "Upon quick inspection, we found that there are 100 landscape areas in the drawing.  Some take longer than others to accept changes.  I see about a 1GB increment in memory each time a Landscape Area is modified.  The geometry is very far from the origin.  If I move all the Landscape Areas to 0,0 and modify a Landscape Area, the memory usage is marginal, and speed."

 

I hope that helps. 

[Poot]

I am also having a similar issue on VW 2024 -SP7 , when then trying to update the site model, it crashes. This occurs after having updated the preferences on about 30 landscape areas to select the layer for the site model, and the internal origin is very close. 

Can send a file, but its about 100mb.

I have also tried in VW2025 sp2, and while it is not crashing, it seems to hang the program - at least 10minute by now

Edited November 20, 2024 by Poot

[kwik]

On 3/5/2024 at 5:10 PM, Gran Mathias said:

Whenever i try to adjust something on the landscape area objects in my project, the entire program stops responding, as if it has to "update" everything on all the objects.

Hi

 

Have you tried to adjust the simplification tolerance to anything higher than 0? For example 0,01. It can make a big differance in the complexety of the LA, especially for the shape you have with no straight lines. The triangulation of the LA must be very dense and complex. I can greatly affect the filesize as well. And stability for the file. 

[Poot]

51 minutes ago, kwik said:

Hi

 

Have you tried to adjust the simplification tolerance to anything higher than 0? For example 0,01. It can make a big differance in the complexety of the LA, especially for the shape you have with no straight lines. The triangulation of the LA must be very dense and complex. I can greatly affect the filesize as well. And stability for the file. 

Thanks a lot Knut!

Totally solved the issue (it was indeed set to 0, and individual LA's had ~9500vertices 🙃)

Guess this is what happens when I haven't actually had to use this for work in a long time....completely forget the basics!

Edited November 20, 2024 by Poot

[kwik]

27 minutes ago, Poot said:

Thanks a lot Knut!

Glad that it helped! We use Simplification tolerance between 0,01 and 0,025 for most of our projects, depending on the need for accuracy in the specific project. This also applies to Site Modifiers and Hardscapes 🙂