.ids (information delivery specification) file import

[gester]

hi,

is the importing of the new information requirements format (development supported by buildingsmart int'l) named .ids (information delivery specification) planned, or maybe already in the pipeline? 

 

this format is both machine and human readable, and is supposed to import owner's requirements (now governed by paper-based documents: air - asset information requirements, pir - project information requirements, and eir - exchange information requirements, these are destined to be abandoned in the future) into the properties that can be used for the ifc data exported from the application.

 

do vectorworks, inc. think about it?

 

bye,

rob

[matteoluigi]

i don't have a clue and I am eager to know myself, when there will be first infos. In fact, I can imagine, that IDS could be a great tool for information handling in OpenBIM projects.

I think, there will come sth in the future, but I actually don't know.

 

here have already been presentations about that topic ;-)

[matteoluigi]

@gester and of course BSDD should be implemented as well for an integral workflow sth like a BSDD -interface for the datamanager

Edited November 20, 2023 by matteoluigi

[gester]

On 11/20/2023 at 5:08 PM, matteoluigi said:

@gester and of course BSDD should be implemented as well for an integral workflow sth like a BSDD -interface for the datamanager

you really need bsdd matrix in vectorworks?

it's an external link between the ifc guids and the classification and real life objects, containing rfids, qr's, or gs1 gtins.

 

we need ids in the first place, just in order to populate our ifc models with properties.

 

btw: i don't see pictures in the translated computerworks presentation. can you provide the link to the german version?

Edited November 23, 2023 by gester
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[matteoluigi]

@gester sure i can paste the original link:

 

https://www.computerworks.ch/vectorworks-blog/details/open-bim-forum-wofuer-kann-man-das-ids-format-einsetzen.html

Edited November 23, 2023 by matteoluigi

[gester]

i've just watched the vw 2024 excel referencing video. i think the ids case could be performed in a similar manner: just importing ids in the excel-import style.

 

of course, it's just an idea, i still dunno if it makes sense and how to implement it.

such import would have to go directly into ifc properties (or via data manager), not as a worksheet...

Edited November 23, 2023 by gester

[matteoluigi]

@gester afaik IDS is more than an excel file, afaik ids is a set of specifications, rules, to check and guarantee that all agreed information is stored in your model. When I talk about IDS I more likely think about a set of rules which can be checked in vw in data visualizations and worksheets for example. But, I'm not sure actually....

[gester]

ids is an xml-type of file, very standardised. i mean the import procedure which might be similar to excel imports. it was not comparing both standards (xls and ids). 

[matteoluigi]

sure, ids referencing could be the way.

Like - storing the ids file on a shared folder and refreshing the reference everytime it gets changed, so you can use project-specific and global ids-rules (maybe, I still only know a little bit about ids)

[aage.langedrag]

https://www.buildingsmart.org/what-is-information-delivery-specification-ids/

 

 

 

Edited February 2 by aage.langedrag

[matteoluigi]

I guess, i need to make some tests in a simple VW file asap