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Door Jamb Behavior


Nolan W

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I'm in a pickle.  I have a suspicion that there is a simple step or option that I am overlooking or have set improperly.  The issue is that when I place doors in a wall, the jamb doesn't insert relative to the center of jamb within the wall.  It has an offset, so the edge of the jamb sits flush with the structure, and the GWB is proud of all of it.  Obviously not how you want your doors to behave.  

 

I've attached the file and some settings screenshots.  I've also searched the forum and a few stabs at google searches with no luck.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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EDIT:  Additional info that may help - I've adjusted the General - Insert Relative To setting and the Jamb - Use Wall Depth setting.  I've experimented with exterior doors in exterior walls, interior doors with interior walls, and generic doors in both interior and exterior walls.  I was following along with a lesson and used the styled doors that the instructor used as well as the same settings they used, and after not getting the expected result, that is when I started to experiment.

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The critical setting that is throwing you is the insert location which you can see in the OIP here:

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You have it set to 'Wall - Insert Location' which means the Door will align with wherever the Insert Location is set for the Wall in question. In your case it is set to the inside face of the exterior (left hand) Wall component:

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To edit the Insert Location for the Door, find the Door Style in the Resource Manager + right-click on it to open the 'Plug-in Object Style Options':

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It sounds like you want to set it to 'Wall - Centreline'.

 

These settings were only brought in a couple of versions ago so it's possible they aren't included in the tutorial you're watching. It can seem hideously complicated initially but gives you an enormous amount of control over how your doors are set up to insert + saves a lot of time manually editing their position later - especially with external doors which have a specified offset from the outer face of the wall - compared to how it had to be done previously.

 

 

 

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I knew it was a simple setting somewhere.  Thank you @Tom W. (no relation) for the assist.

 

What's crazy to me, and maybe it's just an old dog trying to learn a new trick making this hard, but you can right-click the door in the model and select Edit PlugIn Style and there is an Insert Relative To setting which seems like it "should" be the same thing, but it is not.  

 

This solution worked.  Thank you again.

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10 minutes ago, Nolan W said:

there is an Insert Relative To setting which seems like it "should" be the same thing, but it is not.  

 

Not at computer now but that setting is the insert location on the Door rather than the Wall I believe. So you are telling VW which part of the door you want to align with which part of the wall. Hence two settings. Plus you can apply an offset as well 🙂

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