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  1. Yeah I think so? I understand a lot of people maybe wouldn't use it, but seems odd to set the file to automatically geo-reference, without the layers doing the same? At the moment, even without turning the georeferencing layer settings on, the file is georeferenced by default. So for anyone not working in a georeferenced environment, with the georeferencing for each of the layers turned off, it's then difficult to import or export occasional GIS information, because VW assumes your drawing, (centred on the internal origin,) to be in Greenwich Park geographically, and imports / exports the shapefiles geographically? (This is actually how we first came across georeferencing in VW 2020, as we had issues with alignment between the two where we never did before!) It just seems to make sense to either have both settings off by default or on by default? Or yes, definitely to be able to have the option to choose on a file by file basis what the default is. (I'm just not really sure of the workflow that benefits from the file default being on while the layer default is off?)
  2. Small request, but would it be possible to set the default for new design layers to be for the georeferencing to be switched on please? Even if it's on a file specific basis, so you can select that all new layers in a particular file will be set to georeferenced? At the moment the file is automatically geo-referenced, but the layers are default not, and everytime a new layer is created the setting has to be manually turned on.
  3. Yep you're bang on, it would be for LVIA. We've tried it before with variable results... but to be fair without the camera 'effects' switched on! Any advice from the engineering friends would be much appreciated.
  4. I've had a look at camera match before... and it does look fab for illustrative purposes! It's just that I need to be able to work to a stringent methodology in terms of demonstrating no skewing etc has been applied to the model to make it fit the photo? And also as we're not always working with buildings / urban settings, it can be difficult to define the lines of each plane in landscape photographs. The idea I was trying to work with was that if you take a photo from a particular co-ordinate point and height in the real world, with a set camera lens / angle of view / other definable camera settings, you can then replicate these settings within a Vectorworks camera, and the rendered export should be at the same scale / orientation as the photo? Which could then be combined in photoshop / another software?
  5. So I found the camera effects tick box. It's in View > Rendering > Custom Renderworks Options, which is only an option when the camera object is selected. I found this Vectorworks link to be more directly helpful than the series of 37 youtube videos detailing the full rendering process! Thanks anyway though. Looks like without this setting enabled, the majority of the camera settings aren't incorporated into the render, which is maybe why I'm having issues replicating a 50mm scale with angle of view etc! Will give it a go.
  6. @Zeno Thanks, will have a watch. When you say render with a style with renderworks camera set to on, does this just mean use a renderworks-style render setting, rather than OpenGL?
  7. @Zeno This is similar to my workflow: - create a model in Vectorworks - set a renderworks camera on position, 50mm FL, angle of view etc. (I wasn't sure whether to use perspective or orthographic projection.) - render a viewport from the camera (is there a setting to turn camera effect on? Where is this?) - export the image for external work, to overlay the image onto the original photograph. BUT, when I overlay the resulting model on the photo, it needs a fair bit of rescaling and skewing / warping to fit properly over the image. I wasn't sure if I was missing settings somewhere to make the model export from the camera more reflective of a real 50mm camera photograph in terms of scale and perspective.
  8. @Zeno- I need to be able to use a 50mm focal length camera to take a photograph, with an exact horizontal angle of view, to use as the base image for a photomontage - so basically I want to take a model from Vectorworks and overlay the exported render image from the Renderworks camera onto the 50mm photograph in Photoshop? I can't edit the perspective of the photograph at all, so I want to make sure the model to be in the same perspective as the photograph? Does that make sense?
  9. In terms of the projection settings in Renderworks Camera, the options are limited to 'perspective' or 'orthographic'. Which of the two would be the most reflective of the projection of a photograph taken from a standard 50mm fixed focal lens camera, if I wanted to overlay my model onto this? (without using the camera match feature?) Professional guidance on visualisation of developments refers to both 'cylindrical' projection, which maintains vertical lines and scale across the image; and also 'planar' projection, which is that as captured in a single frame camera image. Am I right to assume cylindrical would be best suited to an orthographic setting in Vectorworks, and planar would be best suited to the perspective setting?
  10. I have a geo-referenced file, with geo-referenced data imported. The data in my file all sits in the correct place when I add a Geo-image to check the geo-graphic location - however, the file has never been 'geo-located' - so the internal origin is miles away from the data. If I try to geo-locate now, the data in my file moves position to retain it's offset position to the internal origin, which I don't want. I've tried this with both the geo-referencing turned on for all layers, and also turned off. Is there a way around this?
  11. @Tamsin Slatter - just working this through on a new file, and while it will work a dream in SP2... there are a few extra steps for the SP1 method. Reason being - if I have Target File 3 as a blank file, without the SP2 'Align User Origin with Georeferencing Coordinate System' dream tool, I can't locate a GIS stake in the same location as the Internal Origin of the xref files, because my XY don't align yet so I don't have any way of positioning it. I have to use the search geolocate function to find the site, then geolocate on a random point - then set the user origin manually to align with the co-ord system to allow me use of the XY positioning. Then I can set a stake tool with the same co-ordinates as the Internal Origin for other files, and geolocate again to this point. However, this messes up the user origin again as it's position is set in relation to the Internal Origin... so I have to set the User Origin back to the position of Internal Origin, before I can reset the user origin manually again to align with the co-ord system. It works, but it's convoluted! When is SP2 coming out again?? ūü§™
  12. I realise this post is out of date now but just wanted to throw in a tuppence worth. Previously we've used (Q)GIS at Planning and feasibility stage, to make use of extensive datasets which are available - particularly base mapping but also overlaying landscape and planning designated and protected areas, terrain data, ZVIs etc. in initial site analysis and planning reports. We've then used Vectorworks concurrently for early design drawings and diagrams at feasibility and planning stages. Our Tender and Construction drawings evolve from our early stage Vectorworks drawings, and our GIS drawings tend to get archived. The recent 2020 release is good for us as it provides welcome integration between what have previously been separate technical exercises required for the same purpose early on in a project. We can now utilise additional base information straight from Vectorworks, (such as aerial and base imagery) and import and read the data attached to shapefiles to be read in context with our design. I'd second @unearthed comments on the likelihood of continued GIS use for large scale analysis - I wouldn't want to import national shapefile datasets to Vectorworks - but complementary systems allow better workflow between the two.
  13. Have a look at QGIS? It's an open source GIS software. You would need to input or source all the ROW information yourself, it's not going to collect the data for you - but if you contact the county GIS departments they may be able to send you GIS shapefiles from their systems which you could load in, combine and amend as necessary? Then you'd at least be able to build up one single source.
  14. I'm using Landmark, which does support importing GIS data such as shapefiles, so I can't help with a Vectorworks based solution I'm afraid - other than to ask if you are sure Spotlight doesn't support this - check that it's not just that you need to add the tool to your current workspace. If it doesn't support this, you can use an open source GIS software (QGIS) to open GIS data, review the shapefiles natively within a GIS system, and then export to DWG if necessary? And at least that way you can see if the full data set you need is within the GIS file you've been provided with and it's an issue with DWG conversion - or if the shapefile doesn't contain all the information you need and you just need to request another SHP with the right data in?

 

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