Bruce Kieffer

Beautiful! Thanks DMorong.

I have zoom line thickness turned off. I'd like to use the new "Quick Zoom" (Z key) feature of VW 2010 more often, but it does not recognize the zoom line thickness being turned off. So "Quick Zoom" is useless a higher levels since the line thickness makes the zoom show as all black (my lines are black). Is there a setting I'm missing for this?

I'm having a lot of trouble getting objects to snap exactly to points of other objects. My screen hint says it's snapped, but at max zoom they are not aligned. Is there a setting I need to change? Seems like this is a bug (possibly) since 2010 SP3.

You could use the 3rd party program Quickeys and make a shortcut (macro) to do what you want, but I agree with Mike that right clicking on the navigation palette is simple enough.

Mike, I did some testing, and you are correct. I never realized there were both 2D and 3D grids. Is there any "align grids" command? I will follow your advice in the future. Thanks.

Here I go again with the darn grids! It seems like I have at least 3 alignment grids. Here's the problem. I set my grid origin point in top/plan view. I have my grid set to 1/16". I align a 3D object to the grid in top view. Switch to right view. Align the same object to grid and it shifts left just a hair. Switch back to top/plan. Object is off the grid. Align to grid again, it shifts upward a hair. Go to right view. Object is off the grid. I want to scream. How do I fix this?

Thanks Michael. I did figure that out on my own. My point was that Adobe Air was of no "help" when I tried to learn what the dialog box was telling me.

I tested on my iMac with 10.6.4 and I do not have the problem. I wonder if it may be something else going on with your machine. Have you tried restarting your computer?

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I too am interested in seeing what you are working on. I do this type of rendering with a viewport since I found it too difficult to control the results of artistic rendering. Saying "high quality artistic render" is kind of an oxymoron in my opinion.

VW 2010. Set a view of your objects on a design layer. Go to the view menu/create viewport, create a new viewport. Put it on a new sheet layer. Go to the viewport. Select the viewport. Go again to the view menu/create viewport. Then you should see the dialog box I show above. Ray, We should probably start a new topic if you want to continue this discussion since it's unrelated to Adobe Air.

Does it look like this?

Oops... I'm as goofed up as Adobe Air. It's "detail viewport" I'm searching for. Do this: Select a viewport, and then go to the view menu and select "create viewport." You'll see it has a dialog box talking about a detail viewport. I figured out what that meant, but it was by intuition, not by getting "help" from Adobe Air.

You'd think it could maintain its window location when you move it, and keep the page open to the last page you viewed when you click the dock icon to bring it to the front, but no! Trying to get "help" on what is a design viewport (I meant to say "detail viewport"). Search the VW help for that... NOTHING. Darn it, I'm so tired of junky help programs that don't help.

Agreed. Fix it for real, or get rid of it.

Might this be something related to assigning line color at time of creation? The graphic attributes settings in the class edit menu, and the checkbox "Use at Creation"?

OK... Here's what I will say about my color blindness. If you and I were tied to a ticking bomb with ten seconds to detonation, and there's a bundle of wires; a tan, an orange, a red, a beige, a brown, and a green wire, I'm not your best choice at that moment to cut the green wire to save our lives! Thanks for the complements.

gideon, I really don't want to make a big deal about this, but I think you are wrong. I suggest you look at my website and my drawings. I am color blind, and I have chosen all the colors in my drawings. As like anyone who has a handicap, I have found ways around it. It's the prejudices that are hard to get around. http://www.draw.biz/

I seem to have worked it out. Not an easy task. Lots of trial and error. I used Pat's suggestion mostly. I drew the frame stiles and rails and extruded them. Then I created the extrude along a path "negative" to "round over" the inside edges of the frame. I drew a 3/8" rad. cove on a 1/2" x 1/2" square as the profile (basically a router bit). I drew a rectangle the size of the frame opening and added 1/4" to the width and height. That was to allow for the size of the profile since VW centers the profile on the path (Wish list item to allow us to define the point of the profile that extrudes on the path). I rounded the corners of the rectangle 1/4" rad. to mimic how the router bit with its 1/2" dia. bearing acts in real life. I extruded along the path, an then subtracted the "negative from each stile and rail individually. I made a sweep "negative" for the tapered top of the outside edge round over the mimic the router stopping its cut there. It's not perfect, but certainly close enough. You can tear apart my file to see the elements. Thanks for all your help.

Not to nitpick, but the color blind part of the comment is more of a concern to me. That is suggesting that color blind people have no design ability. If you are color blind, and you've had to listen to color blind jokes and put downs your whole life, you might be offended by this. That's why it's best for all of us to think twice before we make posts blaming a poor decision on a person's handicap. OK... Now I'm going to jump off my soapbox and get back to working on my drawings.

Ken, Nice! Looking at your top drawing, that is exactly what the "stopped" round over on the outside edge would look like (without the burn!). I sand those by hand to blend them in. Are your stiles and rails are separate pieces? I need to show the vertical joint line in my drawing.

These are all interesting approaches. Thanks. I'll give them a try. Pat, I had considered your technique, and I think it will give me the closet results to what I want. Kevin and Ken, Imagine how this is made in real life. The frame is assembled, and then the router with a piloted round over bit is guided on the inside edge of the frame, and the router base rides n the top face of the face frame. The inside corners get shaped like Ken's example, but the they are square on the flat inside edges like Kevin's example. Ray, I like what you did there! It's kind of what Pat was suggesting. The way you handled the end of the fillet cut is nice. It may not be exactly how the router would do it, but it certainly is close enough. I also like your "Custom Selections" palette. I will mess with that a bit too.

This one has me stumped. How do I draw in VW a filleted a cabinet face frame where the corners are butt joints, and the round overs are done after the cabinet is assembled, and the round overs on the outside edges stop before the end of the stiles at the top. See the attached photo for the details.

Don't use it. I wonder too why it's there. Maybe some folks don't use the OIP?

I talked with tech support a few weeks ago about this problem, and they said they would make the engineers aware, so I have to say maybe!