Red & Green Lines

[Delmer]

Often after coming out of editing a group or similar task I will have red & green crosshairs on my screen and need to hit '0' to remove them and return to top plan. What's up?

[Pat Stanford]

It sounds like you are in Top view instead of Top/Plan and those are the Axes showing the origin. There is actually another one, Blue coming straight out of the screen toward you identifying the Z axis.

 

Are you changing the view while you are editing the group? It will keep whatever view you are in as you exit the group. 

 

Or perhaps it is that you are rendering while you are in the group. Render modes are not available in Top/Plan, so you are automatically switched to Top when you render. 

[Delmer]

Thank you Pat,

 

As an example, here's a simple exercise; I'm in Top Plan, draw a rectangle, use Create Floor, enter and exit the floor without doing anything. I'm now in Top view with the axes showing and have to return to Top Plan to remove them. Is that just going to happen after editing anything that has a 3D component - I just need to get used to hitting 0 after any such edit? It's not that big of a deal, I guess.

[Pat Stanford]

Try the steps you gave me in a new blank file please. Rectangle:Floor:Edit Floor:Exit Floor.

 

For me this does not switch the view.

 

But I just noticed your signature. If you are really still running VW 11.5 you are about 14 years behind the current version. No way I can test here. But I don't remember that happening.

[Delmer]

In a new, blank document it did not switch views, so it is just the current file. I should be able to fix that - or live with it for the duration of the project.

 

I'm a few years behind, but not quite as old as 11.5, haha. I just came back to the message board to ask this question after a hiatus. Guess I could update that.

 

I recently reinstalled VW and there have been a few oddities I've had to figure out, all pretty minor though.

 

Thanks again.

[Pat Stanford]

If you want to try and figure it out, copy and paste your group into the new blank file. If it does the switch when you edit the group, then we are closer to a culprit.

 

Can you post the blank file with the group for us to take a look at?

[Delmer]

I might not mess with it too much today, but I did find that copying and pasting the simple floor to different layers only results in a view change after edit in two of my layers, the others remain in Top Plan. To be more precise the view is changed when entering the floor and is retained when exiting.

[Delmer]

And I guess it's not actually switching views, for the "Current View" dropdown remains as Top/Plan. If I do actually go to Top view then the background turns green. I had better get on with other things right now, I'll explore more a little later.

[Delmer]

Here's what I discovered. Entering an object with a 3D component would bring up the colored axes if the object was located on a design layer which had an elevation set to any value other than zero. Setting the elevation to zero would allow entering/exiting without displaying the axes. This is true for new non-template files. I put a roof in the default layer with an elevation of zero, edit: no axes. Duplicate the layer, change only the elevation, paste in the same roof, edit: axes appear.

[Pat Stanford]

Not seeing that in VW2020 SP2.1

 

Top/Plan

Create group on design layer with layer elevation of zero. Enter Group/Exit Group. No axis lines.

 

Move group to design layer with layer elevation of 1 foot. Enter Group/Exit Group. No axis lines.