VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 LOL,Ive heard that Designers hide their mistakes behind Vines/hedges In Sweden there is a vine called 'An architects' comfort'. :grin: Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Your Open BIMs not even close to whats being done in Revit and Bentley LOL..and the data is being checked by real engineers not artists/modelers (NO OFFENSE INTENDED)...Ive been consistantly responsible with BIM/Data for a decade now I only wish Robert and Co took some responsibility.... Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 How is it exported? How and in what program is it checked? What is a 'real' engineer? Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) ..and the data is being checked by real engineers not artists/modelers ... What's the relevance of this in this discussion? (I'm a artist/modeler.... and I work(and have worked) with VWs, Bentley, ArchiCAD, Revit and try to avoid AutoCAD, and in 90% of the cases when exported files are sent and received I need to call these 'real' engineers and explain for them how to use their own software to open and use these exported dwg/ifc files they have received from 'us'!?) Edited March 20, 2012 by Vincent C Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Your Open BIMs not even close to whats being done in Revit and Bentley LOL.. What is Open BIM for Revit and Bentley? How is it 'different' from VWs. (I am however aware that they are more accomplished parametric BIM modelers.) Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I couldnt care care less "Hows its exported" Take a pick Save as VW file, 3D DWG,IFC or parasold...If you send it to me as a VW file I will send it back as a VW file (Corrections,Scripts WS & data)...All data is check in VW (You would have never have known the Cut and Fill volumes were out unless I told you & IFC isnt going to save you) and why would I use an IFC viewer? Real engineers,they are the only ones certified to check data( Geo, Civil, Structural, Mechanical,etc NOT SOFTWARE ENGINEERS)...NAG needs to get there own house in order first (my 2 cents) Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) .....so what is your contribution to this thread and its queries so far (except for blowing your own whistle)? You don't seem to think much of VWs but you seem to continue to use it why? I'm not trying to start a fight, I want to understand why you seem so negative and if so if you have answers to solving it......I don't give a rats ass how good you are, I want to be able to use VWs effectivly in all situations and want to avoid Revit, ArchiCAD, AutoCAD and Bentley etc if I can, so far VWs is hanging on by the skin of their teeth but I'm not ready to give up yet I just want to get the job done relatively fast. Edited March 20, 2012 by Vincent C Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I use VW's along with many other real engineers Unlike you I can do everything in this program Design, engineer build and check data...stick around you might learn something about Cut and Fill volumes. Quote Link to comment
Chris D Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Unlike you I can do everything You don't do modesty very well. Quote Link to comment
Chris D Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 spend more on fixing this program...before persuing Open BIM->IFC (fanciful ideals).. This argument is kind of like "why build art galleries when we need more hospitals". The two are not exclusive. As a small player Nemetschek has a vested interest in open standards so that they can play ball too. Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Open BIM, real engineers, LOL Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 spend more on fixing this program...before persuing Open BIM->IFC (fanciful ideals).. As a small player Nemetschek has a vested interest in open standards so that they can play ball too. 10 Major Architecture Failures-No 7 Lotus RIVERSIDE NOT to be confused with DC RIVERSIDE Collapse caused by incorrect volume calculation surcharge? Inadequate footings? My point is if you want to play with the Big Boys with Open BIM make sure your datas correct and you havent forgotten the Foundations/footings...or youll be known for all the wrong reasons (Not as a leader in site design) I take checking data in VW very seriously Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Instead of trying to figure out what Open BIM is ('you'll' be flaying that horse till your blue in the face if 'you' try) why not instead post wishes for 'your' own definition and needs of Open BIM!? Because there's a difference in this case between open BIM and Open BIM?. Open BIM? is an initiative by buildingSMART in conjunction with a bunch of BIM vendors which defines Open BIM?, and to use the logo in order to demonstrate you're part of it all you need to meet the requirements. And I now realise they have a FAQ page, which I missed at first. You can read exactly what Open BIM? is here: http://buildingsmart.com/openbim/faq#section-10 Quote Link to comment
VincentCuclair Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Sure, but it's still wooly and based on the same issues.......and the logical solution seems to be a single file (server based) system-.....not going to happen for a long time, so in the mean time we'll need to depend on real engineers and IFC to solve this for us. :grin: Quote Link to comment
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