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Anyone know how to get the walls to join on this kind of dormer (often referred to as a "wall dormer", "through dormer", or "engaged dormer")?

If I use the l join, the lower main wall is clipped at the end of the dormer. If I use-the T-join, it just doesn't do anything.

I've read through just about every topic/thread on wall joins and dormers and haven't found the solution.

Help anybody?

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Such connections ask a lot of practice and tricks to accomplish.

Agreed, had a nightmare modelling a loft conversion, where a triangular (in elevation) section of the wall is new and the rest is existing. And then I can't join the party walls and the external walls because the external walls are on the layer below (and the party walls slope down to meet them just at the corner).


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