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Brilliant! Thanks Pat, been beating my head against this one for awhile!

Hello all, Looking to bump this. HRP ZForce.vwxI'm using a conversion factor to convert N to Lbs, but the tag doesn't observe rounding. I don't want to display any decimal places, and this is going out sometimes as many as 10 significant digits. Changing Units in document prefs has no effect. Any ideas?

Please see attached. You'll see basic data tags attached to the House Rigging Points, this is what I'm trying to get to display the ForceZ component. HRP ZForce.vwx Thank you!

Hello, I'm trying to display force in document units (ft-lbs) in my data tag, and I can only get it to output in Newtons. I know that in other plugins with force, there is typically a 'formatted' option, which I don't see in the House Rigging Point tool. I'm able to add a multiplier to obtain ft-lbs as below, however it displays 10 decimal places. Using the 'Prec' command does nothing. The house rigging point label itself will display the Z force, but I need to customize that as I don't need the other data (and it's ugly). Any ideas? #HouseRiggingPoint#.#ForceZ# * 0.224

Michael, thanks very much for the video, that does help. I had stumbled upon the auto house point creation and that's certainly helpful. I made a custom data tag to just display the z force, so I have a path forward for my reporting requirements. I did not realize you could prevent a down leg with the 0' setting, and now it's painfully obvious. I'll play around on my own, but once the hoist is linked to the bridle, will the high-hook change when you change the bridle geometry? My goal here ultimately is to be able to set one leg to a standard length (say 10' basket and 10' leg), and then have everything else adjust to make a real bridle.

I like number 2 the best. And to tag on, when I use a keyboard shortcut to orbit to iso or front view, don't move the focus to some random place in the drawing when I go back to plan.

As in title. The bar joist/open web girder is probably more common than a traditional W beam in mid sized venue roof systems. Please add support for this beam shape. I realize that the complexity of the web may be difficult to model, so I would settle for two angle irons back to back to represent the chord as a single structural member. It will be point up or point down depending on which chord is modeled. This will also affect the bridle ELOH calculation tool as the effective shape is a triangle not a square. Thanks!

And as a follow up to anybody else reading, I really couldn't care less about the bridle build info. In a convention center, you bring a steel package, put the sticker on the floor, and the boom guys burn links until the apex is over your sticker. I just need a tool that will give me the Z load at each beam connection, which is what the engineer cares about. We keep the bridle angles within the engineering document spec and we're within our stamp. I need the simplest of functionality. Drop Item on hoist. Drag line to each beam. Tool takes segment length, divides it by total line length, multiplies that by hoist load value, displays result. Building Engineers do not care about leg tension, they want to know what vertical force we're putting on the roof members. I need to show them this in the simplest of fashions. I'm sure it's possible with marionette but I do not have that expertise. It would be REAL nice if this would recursively update when the load value updates due to a braceworks recalc. (screenshot DNS)

Scott, Thanks for taking the time to make a video. What you show matches what I've been able to accomplish in the drawing, but I was hoping to improve upon that. So ultimately what I understand is there's no way around needing to put structural members into your drawing in order to make the tool work, is that a fair assessment? And a follow up, which your video seems to confirm- there is no way to automatically adjust the hoist's high-hook height to match the bridle apex after bridle insertion if the hoist already exists? If that's true, can you add a feature request for a 'no down leg' option when inserting? It is exceedingly rare that I need a down leg in any of my rigs. 75' chains get it done in a majority of venues around the country. I need a global 'No down legs, all beam attachments are 5' baskets with a rock n roll shackle, chain on top' setting. And then be able to change my mind and modify all baskets to 10' steel with a minimum of effort and have the legs recalculate. Is there a comprehensive training video for the bridle tool that I'm missing? Documentation for braceworks is so sparse, and it's exceedingly frustrating to pay so much for the unit and then have to bumble through it and trick it into functioning. Every demonstration shows it running calcs on 1 type of truss and 10 hoists. I'm running 500 hoists and miles of truss and the product is unusable. It seems like I end up on this rant every time I try to utilize some of its functionality. I don't understand why properly documenting the tool usage in writing is so challenging for the design team. As always, thanks for your help.

Scott, The hoist is already placed and attached to the truss, I'm trying to add the bridle connection only. I see that there is some partial functionality for existing hoists if I've drawn structural members, but redrawing an entire convention center is not practical. Also, when I do this my high hook height is not adjusted to not require a down leg steel when it wouldn't need one, and it's pretty finicky if you don't have the hook height manually set to a range where the apex might live. Ultimately I want to set the beam hight for bridle attachments, click the hoist, click the two attachment points, and move on with my life. Is this possible? I've scoured YouTube and the help file and can't seem to find my answer. Thanks

Hi folks, Not sure if I'm misunderstanding the bridle tool, but I'm having some workflow issues. I have already designed my truss and hoist layout, and now I need to lay in bridles. My truss trim height is known, my max chain length is known, and my beam height is known. How can I lay in bridles in this configuration? Currently, it seems like the tool snaps to your high hook height, and adds a down leg from the apex to your hook. Is there a way to make this tool work for existing hoists? I have 500, and I'm not redrawing them using the method where you click the bridle attachment points and the tool generates the hoist. It seems to me the tool is backward. I should be able to click a hoist, and then get a line type tool that allows me to click both beams and set the attachment height and then viola a bridle is made- Does that exist? Thank you!

Their cut sheets are all on the website. Do you need a direct contact over there? I'm happy to make an introduction if you shoot me a DM.

Am I crazy or do Vectorworks issued stock symbols for a bunch of the Tyler truss have no weight included in the profile? This seems like an accident waiting to happen. Any reason it was omitted?

Any ideas on my issue with the stock symbol? It has no texture applied. Thanks!

In fact there's another ongoing post now! Help!