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I learned VectorWorks totally by myself clicking buttons and drawing. Every time I was in doubt I went to the help of the program (available as a .pdf file, installed by default) and I've always solved my doubts there. It's one of the easiest helps I've ever used. Eventually I have met other VW users and they had gave me some clues. VW is very easy, and in my opinion much easy to use than Autocad. But I haven't used Autocad too much so I can't make a detailed comparison.

If you are running Mac OS X, you also can choose which software opens a file. Select the VW document, press comand and i (for getting info on the file) and there in the samll info windows, go to "open with" and select VectorWorks (application) instead of the viewer. Ther you can check the button that allows to open all this kind of documents with your preferred app,

Tried with the installer again, nothing happened. Erased VW from the HD and all the preferences. Logged out, then logged in. Reinstalled VW. Downloaded the updater again. Run it again. Now everything went OK. Now "about VW" says it's 10.0.1 and when I get info it says it's 10.0.1 (14634) Strange... but now I'm happy Thanks for the feedback! [ 12-03-2002, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Hugo ]

I hope it's not a beta version since it was buyed by my office. The updater didn't tell me nothing about creating a new folder and it did not. It just told me everything was succesfull and that I may change the name of the application folder if I wanted. I have no complains but I wanted to know if the updater actually updated my application or not. As I said, if I ask for info of the VW application, it appears it's version 10.0.0 (13282). Is this a beta then, the official 10.0.0 or it's 10.0.1? I never looked for this info before.

I have just downloaded the 10.0.1 updater and run it, but when I go to "About VectorWorks" the screen tells me I'm running version 10.0.0 If I select the application icon and get info about it it says I'm running version 10.0.0 (13282) Did the updater work or not? I'm running Mac OS X 10.2.2 Thanks.

I have just upgraded to VW 10 and everything has been OK, except sometimes the program slows down in a notorious way. I'm running Mac OS X 10.2.2 on a 400 mhz iMac with 768 mb of ram. I've trying to guess what happens and I have discovered that when VW is the front application, it uses almost all my CPU, so in the terminal, top shows my CPU 0,0% idle. It doesn't matter if I'm drawing or not, VW always uses about 60 - 70% of the CPU while Window Manager uses the rest. If I put the terminal in the front, inmediatly VW resources go down to 0 - 0,9% of the CPU. Why does VW 10 use so much CPU even if I leave it doing nothing for several minutes? Why does the fact of putting another app in the front make VW use so less CPU? Does the program do something very CPU intensive when in the front?

I'm also having problems to print from VW under Mac OS X 10.2.1 Custom paper sizes do not work in either Epson Stylus Color 777 or Epson Stylus C40UX. If I use the driver included with Jaguar, I can configure a custom paper for "any printer", but my Epson print just an area equivalent to a letter page. If I use GIMP Print drivers, if I choose a custom paper the printer does not print nothing. In Mac OS 9 I'm able to print to custom sizes, but very slowly.

I have the same problems with VW Architect 9.5.3 (final) and Mac OS X 10.2.1 on an iMac DV 400 with 768 mb of ram. VW crashes because of very small things, like moving a symbol, inserting a window in a wall or purging unused objects. The program runs well, and fast, but crashes unexpectedly. Some days nothing happens and others I got many crashes. Printing is VERY slow and under Mac OS X I can't print custom paper sizes in my Epson Stylus Color 777, it just prints the equivalent to a letter page, although a large page appears in page setup and in the screen. And in OS 9 I'm able to print custom sizes, but at an amazingly slow speed. I'd like to upgrade to VW 10 but if things remain this way, I think I won't.

Thanks a lot for your replies. I have just discovered the final 9.5.3 updater is out, so I'm downloading it right now. Actually I worked under Mac OS 9 for a while and did there all the "crashing" stuff. Now I'm on X again and everything seems OK. I'm going to update to 9.5.3 final right now and will post in some days to tell my experience. Thanks again.

I was working on a 8 MB file in VW Architect 9.5.3b2 under Mac OS X 10.2.1 when it suddenly crashed when trying to insert a simple window in a wall. I restarted the program and it always crashed in that action. I was not allowed to insert that window in that wall. It was a wall rotataed about 30?. I tried inserting another window or symbol in the same wall and they worked. I tried inserting the "fatal" window in an horizontal o vertical wall, and it worked. Why it crashed on a 30? rotated wall? I rebooted in Mac OS 9.2.2 and it worked perfectly. No crashes. I rebooted in Mac OS X 10.2.1 after performing this action and it worked fine, but it crashed when moving a symbol. This is the crash log: ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-14 20:09:54 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 340 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00976614 in 0x976614 #1 0x00976ca0 in 0x976ca0 #2 0x00978900 in 0x978900 #3 0x00978480 in 0x978480 #4 0x0091e1bc in 0x91e1bc #5 0x0044aa38 in 0x44aa38 #6 0x00978b88 in 0x978b88 #7 0x0091e1f8 in 0x91e1f8 #8 0x00afc384 in 0xafc384 #9 0x00afcffc in 0xafcffc #10 0x00b27d38 in 0xb27d38 #11 0x00afbfb0 in 0xafbfb0 #12 0x00b278a8 in 0xb278a8 #13 0x00b278a8 in 0xb278a8 #14 0x00b2b4d0 in 0xb2b4d0 #15 0x002f7990 in 0x2f7990 #16 0x0020be54 in 0x20be54 #17 0x0020c27c in 0x20c27c #18 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #19 0x0020c1d0 in 0x20c1d0 #20 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #21 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #22 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #23 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #24 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #25 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00976614 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00976ca0 ctr: 0x00b26020 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x03efbd60 r1: 0xbffff120 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0x02c43ed0 r4: 0xffffffff r5: 0x0000001a r6: 0x00000019 r7: 0x00000000 r8: 0x0437ee30 r9: 0xa1a5022c r10: 0x91a8a86c r11: 0xa1a50cc4 r12: 0x019912dc r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0xbffffea0 r21: 0xffffffff r22: 0xbffffc60 r23: 0x00000000 r24: 0x00073770 r25: 0x00004000 r26: 0x03e47bea r27: 0x036ad200 r28: 0xbffff209 r29: 0xbffff208 r30: 0x0369f0b2 r31: 0x03e47bea ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-15 18:37:29 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 348 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x0e010732 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00d9337c in 0xd9337c #1 0x00d939ec in 0xd939ec #2 0x00d93ff8 in 0xd93ff8 #3 0x00d94260 in 0xd94260 #4 0x00d92dd0 in 0xd92dd0 #5 0x00d92e50 in 0xd92e50 #6 0x00c4467c in 0xc4467c #7 0x001d56e0 in 0x1d56e0 #8 0x001d5bb4 in 0x1d5bb4 #9 0x001f3d38 in 0x1f3d38 #10 0x001f4ab4 in 0x1f4ab4 #11 0x00202368 in 0x202368 #12 0x0020260c in 0x20260c #13 0x003efc14 in 0x3efc14 #14 0x003f41dc in 0x3f41dc #15 0x003f26e0 in 0x3f26e0 #16 0x003f24d0 in 0x3f24d0 #17 0x003f2384 in 0x3f2384 #18 0x00a16188 in 0xa16188 #19 0x00a16b7c in 0xa16b7c #20 0x00a175b0 in 0xa175b0 #21 0x00a1f1b4 in 0xa1f1b4 #22 0x00a22308 in 0xa22308 #23 0x00a217fc in 0xa217fc #24 0x00a1bf24 in 0xa1bf24 #25 0x00a1b9f4 in 0xa1b9f4 #26 0x00b29224 in 0xb29224 #27 0x00a1b130 in 0xa1b130 #28 0x00a1aa68 in 0xa1aa68 #29 0x00b27d38 in 0xb27d38 #30 0x00b27904 in 0xb27904 #31 0x00b278a8 in 0xb278a8 #32 0x00b2b4d0 in 0xb2b4d0 #33 0x002f7990 in 0x2f7990 #34 0x0020be54 in 0x20be54 #35 0x0020c27c in 0x20c27c #36 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #37 0x0020c1d0 in 0x20c1d0 #38 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #39 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #40 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #41 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #42 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #43 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00d9337c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00d939ec ctr: 0x00d92e40 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x0e010726 r1: 0xbfffe7d0 r2: 0x01b65000 r3: 0x0e010726 r4: 0x06d49278 r5: 0x06d493a8 r6: 0x00000130 r7: 0x00000003 r8: 0x040d761c r9: 0x03eb2af3 r10: 0x03eb2af4 r11: 0xa0221734 r12: 0x01b65d78 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x01a872d0 r15: 0x01a87300 r16: 0x01a7f5b1 r17: 0x01a8138c r18: 0x03e467f0 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000000e r22: 0x0000000e r23: 0x0000032c r24: 0xbfffee00 r25: 0xbfffee38 r26: 0x06d49290 r27: 0x01979034 r28: 0x06d49290 r29: 0x0000001c r30: 0x06d58ffc r31: 0x06d49000 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:12:44 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 387 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x0075a704 in 0x75a704 #26 0x0097e7e4 in 0x97e7e4 #27 0x009802dc in 0x9802dc #28 0x00b37e54 in 0xb37e54 #29 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #30 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #31 0x00982078 in 0x982078 #32 0x005a2a70 in 0x5a2a70 #33 0x002058e0 in 0x2058e0 #34 0x0022b28c in 0x22b28c #35 0x00234150 in 0x234150 #36 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #37 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #38 0x002355f8 in 0x2355f8 #39 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #40 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #41 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #42 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #43 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #44 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #45 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc500 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x09968e30 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc407 r7: 0x09968e47 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x0000da2e r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x09961bd0 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x09968c00 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x09968c90 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:14:07 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 435 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x0075a704 in 0x75a704 #26 0x0097e7e4 in 0x97e7e4 #27 0x009802dc in 0x9802dc #28 0x00b37e54 in 0xb37e54 #29 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #30 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #31 0x00982078 in 0x982078 #32 0x005a2a70 in 0x5a2a70 #33 0x002058e0 in 0x2058e0 #34 0x0022b28c in 0x22b28c #35 0x00234150 in 0x234150 #36 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #37 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #38 0x002355f8 in 0x2355f8 #39 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #40 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #41 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #42 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #43 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #44 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #45 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc500 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x047c2390 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc407 r7: 0x047c23a7 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x0000edb3 r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x046c9ba0 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x047c2160 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x047c21f0 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:16:04 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 437 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x0075a704 in 0x75a704 #26 0x0097e7e4 in 0x97e7e4 #27 0x009802dc in 0x9802dc #28 0x00b37e54 in 0xb37e54 #29 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #30 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #31 0x00982078 in 0x982078 #32 0x005a2a70 in 0x5a2a70 #33 0x002058e0 in 0x2058e0 #34 0x0022b28c in 0x22b28c #35 0x00234150 in 0x234150 #36 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #37 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #38 0x002355f8 in 0x2355f8 #39 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #40 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #41 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #42 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #43 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #44 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #45 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x902300ec in MPWaitOnQueue #3 0x90737084 in _ZN13TNodeSyncTask12SyncTaskProcEPv #4 0x9025e538 in PrivateMPEntryPoint #5 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 4: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc500 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x04905640 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc407 r7: 0x04905657 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x00000916 r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x048ccf00 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x04905410 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x049054a0 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:17:37 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 439 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x0075a704 in 0x75a704 #26 0x0099fc38 in 0x99fc38 #27 0x00a3361c in 0xa3361c #28 0x00a33758 in 0xa33758 #29 0x0099fe74 in 0x99fe74 #30 0x0097e624 in 0x97e624 #31 0x0097e7f0 in 0x97e7f0 #32 0x009802dc in 0x9802dc #33 0x00981590 in 0x981590 #34 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #35 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #36 0x009820bc in 0x9820bc #37 0x005a2a70 in 0x5a2a70 #38 0x002058e0 in 0x2058e0 #39 0x0022b28c in 0x22b28c #40 0x00234150 in 0x234150 #41 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #42 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #43 0x002355f8 in 0x2355f8 #44 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #45 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #46 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #47 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #48 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #49 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #50 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc500 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x04757380 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc407 r7: 0x04757397 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x00001e2b r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x04756380 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x04757150 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x047571e0 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:27:41 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 442 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x0075a704 in 0x75a704 #26 0x0097e7e4 in 0x97e7e4 #27 0x009802dc in 0x9802dc #28 0x00b37e54 in 0xb37e54 #29 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #30 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #31 0x00982078 in 0x982078 #32 0x005a2a70 in 0x5a2a70 #33 0x002058e0 in 0x2058e0 #34 0x0022b28c in 0x22b28c #35 0x00234150 in 0x234150 #36 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #37 0x0023413c in 0x23413c #38 0x002355f8 in 0x2355f8 #39 0x00235414 in 0x235414 #40 0x00223f0c in 0x223f0c #41 0x00223b44 in 0x223b44 #42 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #43 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #44 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #45 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc500 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x0419dcb0 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc407 r7: 0x0419dcc7 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x0000ac67 r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x0419b520 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x0419da80 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x0419db10 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 15:30:37 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 445 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x0077e79c in 0x77e79c #1 0x00b1ca14 in 0xb1ca14 #2 0x007c7fc0 in 0x7c7fc0 #3 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #4 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #5 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #6 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #7 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #8 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #9 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #10 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #11 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #12 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #13 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #14 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #15 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #16 0x007c5848 in 0x7c5848 #17 0x007c803c in 0x7c803c #18 0x007c8934 in 0x7c8934 #19 0x007c8dcc in 0x7c8dcc #20 0x007631b4 in 0x7631b4 #21 0x007637a8 in 0x7637a8 #22 0x00763d4c in 0x763d4c #23 0x00752270 in 0x752270 #24 0x007581cc in 0x7581cc #25 0x006df210 in 0x6df210 #26 0x006af23c in 0x6af23c #27 0x006af088 in 0x6af088 #28 0x006dfb3c in 0x6dfb3c #29 0x006e0ecc in 0x6e0ecc #30 0x006ae014 in 0x6ae014 #31 0x006e0334 in 0x6e0334 #32 0x00977810 in 0x977810 #33 0x00978a88 in 0x978a88 #34 0x00b29224 in 0xb29224 #35 0x00b29224 in 0xb29224 #36 0x006f4c18 in 0x6f4c18 #37 0x00707400 in 0x707400 #38 0x006f4ba4 in 0x6f4ba4 #39 0x00b29224 in 0xb29224 #40 0x0069f704 in 0x69f704 #41 0x00aa0c7c in 0xaa0c7c #42 0x0069f778 in 0x69f778 #43 0x00aa0aec in 0xaa0aec #44 0x00b28a7c in 0xb28a7c #45 0x00b2887c in 0xb2887c #46 0x0069f6a0 in 0x69f6a0 #47 0x00b2a458 in 0xb2a458 #48 0x00b2a528 in 0xb2a528 #49 0x00b289ec in 0xb289ec #50 0x00b28868 in 0xb28868 #51 0x0069f6a0 in 0x69f6a0 #52 0x00b27ddc in 0xb27ddc #53 0x00aa2868 in 0xaa2868 #54 0x00b27904 in 0xb27904 #55 0x00518758 in 0x518758 #56 0x004da470 in 0x4da470 #57 0x0020c978 in 0x20c978 #58 0x00222d3c in 0x222d3c #59 0x002240d8 in 0x2240d8 #60 0x00223b6c in 0x223b6c #61 0x0020e430 in 0x20e430 #62 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #63 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #64 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x0077e79c srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00b15908 ctr: 0x00000000 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000001 r1: 0xbfffc380 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x04816760 r5: 0x00000018 r6: 0xbfffc287 r7: 0x04816777 r8: 0x00000010 r9: 0x00000010 r10: 0x0000d564 r11: 0xa02219b4 r12: 0x01b665f8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x01a85b7d r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x01a81c8d r22: 0x06451a60 r23: 0x00000009 r24: 0x01a8839e r25: 0x019898b4 r26: 0x01a81c8b r27: 0x06445950 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00c53be8 r30: 0x0000081a r31: 0x048165c0 ********** Date/Time: 2002-10-16 20:49:26 -0300 OS Version: 10.2.1 (Build 6D52) Host: Hugo.local. Command: VectorWorks PID: 342 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x00af1350 in 0xaf1350 #1 0x00aedcd8 in 0xaedcd8 #2 0x00aed930 in 0xaed930 #3 0x00aeb714 in 0xaeb714 #4 0x00ae9c98 in 0xae9c98 #5 0x00ae9b74 in 0xae9b74 #6 0x00af7734 in 0xaf7734 #7 0x00a586c4 in 0xa586c4 #8 0x00587468 in 0x587468 #9 0x00587250 in 0x587250 #10 0x005877f8 in 0x5877f8 #11 0x00588bd0 in 0x588bd0 #12 0x00a19ba0 in 0xa19ba0 #13 0x00a176b0 in 0xa176b0 #14 0x009820bc in 0x9820bc #15 0x005a2f70 in 0x5a2f70 #16 0x00205a38 in 0x205a38 #17 0x00224008 in 0x224008 #18 0x00223b58 in 0x223b58 #19 0x0020e448 in 0x20e448 #20 0x002215cc in 0x2215cc #21 0x0022135c in 0x22135c #22 0x0020cb24 in 0x20cb24 Thread 1: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x901490a8 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x9018157c in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x905e2d90 in _ZN21XIOAudioDeviceManager18NotificationThreadEPS_ #5 0x905e2cac in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ #6 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x90074328 in mach_msg_trap #1 0x90006670 in mach_msg #2 0x9022a874 in SwitchContexts #3 0x90225120 in YieldToThread #4 0x90243420 in SetThreadState #5 0x9026daf0 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #6 0x002415e8 in 0x2415e8 #7 0x0023fe94 in 0x23fe94 #8 0x0023fd90 in 0x23fd90 #9 0x002404cc in 0x2404cc #10 0x00241954 in 0x241954 #11 0x9023bed4 in CooperativeThread #12 0x90021428 in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x90042d68 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap #1 0x9003ef94 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x90233470 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon #3 0x9023c298 in TimerThread #4 0x90021428 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00af1350 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00aefae4 ctr: 0x00d92db0 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffeaf0 r2: 0x01976000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x0695a2a4 r6: 0x0695a2a0 r7: 0x00000002 r8: 0x044016cc r9: 0x044016d0 r10: 0x04aaf010 r11: 0xa00042f8 r12: 0x01b65d90 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x01a7f5b0 r18: 0x00000068 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x01a05a20 r21: 0x01a28bb8 r22: 0x01a28f94 r23: 0x00000000 r24: 0x01a81c8d r25: 0x01a89c48 r26: 0x00000001 r27: 0x06ab53c0 r28: 0x00000001 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x04401810 r31: 0x00000000 Please help me because I prefer to work in Mac OS X, but with this kind of crashes I can't trust.

Hey! Thanks a lot for your ideas!!! That was what I was looking for. That makes things much easier. Thanks a lot! Hugo

How do I apply hatches? Selecting an object is the only way? Can I apply a hatch to an area (clicking inside, as in Autocad) and let VW to automatically detect islands and fill it? Or do I have to draw a polygon over my area and hatch it? I ask because I have many complex (but closed) areas in a drawing, and I have to draw a polygon over them to hatch 'em because they are drawn by individual lines.

Probelm solved!! just imported the file again and changed some setting and everything went OK.

I'm using VW 9.5.3b2 in Mac OS X 10.2.1 and I just imported a DWG drawing from AutoCAD. Everything is OK but if I dimension any line or whatever, numbers do not appear. I can see the dimension lines but not the numbers. If I open a new file and draw a line, and then I dimension it, everything works. But if I paste the DWG (already saved as a VW drawing) I loose the numbers and again, everything I dimension appears without numbers, although Object Info shows it as a dimension. It seems the DWG has something that hides the dimension numbers. What can I do?

I just installed spanish language files because I speak spanish; I live in Chile. But I suppose that's not the reason of those ....aki or ....ashi fonts in my computer. I'm almost sure Adobe apps added them, because I remember at the end of Illustrator or maybe Photoshop installation, those names appeared in the installer progress. The thing is I erased them and today I spent about 2-3 hours in VW Architect and it didn't crash. Those Adobe apps works perfectly after that erasing. Probably Matt was right and VW doesn't like that fonts (although they weren't available in the VW text menu).

Matthew, I'm really sorry. I emptied my trash almost inmediatly, so I can't send you those fonts, but I can tell you all of them had japanese like names, ending in "oshi" or "aki" or similars. All of them had a .otf extension. I suppose they are japanese fonts, but they were never available to any of my Mac OS X apps (OS 9 not too). I have the doubt if they are Apple fonts for using Mac OS X in japanese, or Adobe fonts for working with japanese. I have installed Adobe Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, GoLive 6.0 and I also installed InDesign 2, but deleted it (although it may had add some fonts...). I do not know if it may be interesting, but sometimes GoLive crashes the same way VW does. Just suddenly. Actually they are the only apps that crash in my Mac. As I said, I only made a small test after erasing those fonts. I am waiting for a whole day of work in VW (maybe tomorrow) and then I will post again what happens. By the way, I may reinstall any of those Adobe apps to see if those fonts appear again. Where do I email those fonts if I find them? Thanx! Also, I was surprised that they were very big files, from 3 to 12 MB in size, so I erased a total of 100 MB approximately.

Hi. Although I just made a test working with the problematic file, what I did may have fixed the problem. But I will be able to say it properly after many hours on the drawing. I run Disk Utility from Mac OS X 10.1 Install CD, and it reported no problems. I did it three times for being sure. I also booted in sinle user mode (command+S) and run fsck -y; also my disk appeared to be OK. Then restarted using Apple hardware test CD an run the extensive test. No problem found. Everything OK. Then I booted under Mac OS 9 and took a look in Mac OS X's fonts folder (because X woyld have told me those items were root property). The only fonts there were standard Apple fonts (arial, lucida grande, helevtica, etc.) and the fonts my Adobe apps has added (Myriad, etc.). I found very big ones with an .otf extensions which are japanese fonts. I threw them to the trash cause I don't need them and each other used up to 12 MB of size. Then restarted in X and the first thing I tried was open VWA and opened the drawing, and went to purge unused objects (what made me crash almost three times on monday!) and it worked. No crash. But now I'm working on another thing, so I think tomorrow I'll have many hours over that and I'll tell my experience. But I can't believe those japanese Adobe? fonts may be crashing VW. What a sensible app! Thanks all of you for your ideas. Hugo

Thanks a lot Bruce for your ideas, I'll try them right now. As I said previously I have 384 MB of RAM, both DIMMS (256 + 128) are Kingston brand which I think is a good one. So I don't think it's a physical RAM problem, I think that either VW or Mac OS X are doing something wrong. PS 7 or Illustrator 10 use also lots of memory, but they become slower in hard work, but they don't crash! Thanks, again, I'll check my HD and reload VW.

Well, I' can't afford more memory right now, and I really think it's not the problem. Apps like Photoshop or Illustrator work fine with 50+ MB files, even Corel Bryce or others. I think this is a VW problem, not RAM problem. Is anybody running VW with less than 384 MB of RAM? Does it crash to you?

I have run several dik utilites, Disk First Aid; Norton Disk Doctor and Disk Warrior. I have even reformatted my HD, but the problem remains. And I do not think it's my computer the problem. VW and Adobe GoLive 6.0 are the only apps which crash. All my other software behaves very well, including Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10 which are very memory hungry. I understand maybe 384 MB are not a too much, but I'm doing only 2D, not 3D work. And I can believe VW just crashes without any warning. In Mac OS 9 it used to say "one or more operations were aborted because not enough memory was available" . Now it just crashes? I can't believe. VW Architects requirements are this: Power Macintosh or greaterMac OS 8.6 or greater96 MB RAM200 MB hard-disk space for full install, 150MB hard-disk space for typical installCD-ROM Drive I have fourth times the required minimun of RAM. Do I really need more?

All this week I've been working on VW Architect 9.5.2 under Mac OS X 10.1.5 (with all the updates) and VW crashes almost 10 times a day. This happens in different tasks, and sometimes just with the click of the mouse. The last crash happened some minutes ago, when trying to purge unused objects. The drawing I'm working on it's 7,9 MB of size and contains some images as background for the drawings. These are 6 .jpg images none bigger than 100 kb. This doesn't happen with all the drawings I do, but has happened to me other times (when using 9.5.0 and 9.5.1). I'm using a 400 mhz iMac DV with 384 MB of RAM. Some times other apps are running but others not. I think it has nothing to do with that. This has happened sometimes in Mac OS 9, but that freezes all the system, so I definitely prefer running in X; I loose much less time. But have never tested with this specific drawing under 9, just 10.1.5 I know Mac OS X saves a log file for the crashes, but it's in a language I can't guess what means. Here it is: ********** Date/Time: 2002-07-22 23:35:45 -0400OS Version: 10.1.5 (Build 5S66) Command: VectorWorksPID: 500 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c Thread 0: #0 0x00ed2f70 in 0xed2f70 #1 0x00ed1588 in 0xed1588 #2 0x00ecf8f8 in 0xecf8f8 #3 0x00ecf550 in 0xecf550 #4 0x00ecf5b0 in 0xecf5b0 #5 0x00ecf28c in 0xecf28c #6 0x00ecc014 in 0xecc014 #7 0x00ed92a8 in 0xed92a8 #8 0x00e3a394 in 0xe3a394 #9 0x0399c56c in 0x399c56c #10 0x03999d7c in MenuMain__FllRl #11 0x03999ec4 in main #12 0x00903afc in 0x903afc #13 0x00903de8 in 0x903de8 #14 0x00903f30 in 0x903f30 #15 0x00904204 in 0x904204 #16 0x009043c0 in 0x9043c0 #17 0x0090464c in 0x90464c #18 0x00904494 in 0x904494 #19 0x005efeb4 in 0x5efeb4 #20 0x00604a90 in 0x604a90 #21 0x00604ae8 in 0x604ae8 #22 0x006190ac in 0x6190ac #23 0x00604a90 in 0x604a90 #24 0x00604ae8 in 0x604ae8 #25 0x00604a90 in 0x604a90 #26 0x00605f14 in 0x605f14 #27 0x005f016c in 0x5f016c #28 0x00605dac in 0x605dac #29 0x00605aa4 in 0x605aa4 #30 0x005f03a8 in 0x5f03a8 #31 0x0060352c in 0x60352c #32 0x006032bc in 0x6032bc #33 0x005eea84 in 0x5eea84 Thread 1: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x7017bf84 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x701b70ec in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x7017b8cc in CFRunLoopRunInMode #5 0x7061be08 in NotificationThread__21XIOAudioDeviceManagerPB0 #6 0x706141c0 in Entry__9CAPThreadPB0 #7 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 2: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x7024a0e8 in SwitchContexts #2 0x702c9eec in YieldToThread #3 0x70244b48 in SetThreadState #4 0x702bbbe4 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #5 0x00623548 in 0x623548 #6 0x00621df4 in 0x621df4 #7 0x00621cf0 in 0x621cf0 #8 0x0062242c in 0x62242c #9 0x006238b4 in 0x6238b4 #10 0x7027ae50 in CooperativeThread #11 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x70026a2c in _pthread_become_available #3 0x70026724 in pthread_exit #4 0x70020550 in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x00ed2f70 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x2000001c lr: 0x00ed1704 ctr: 0x01174da0 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffe9e0 r2: 0x01ce7000 r3: 0xffffffff r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x03ab56c4 r6: 0x03ab56c0 r7: 0x00000002 r8: 0x03aa511c r9: 0x03aa5120 r10: 0x04293010 r11: 0x80003710 r12: 0x000e8d90 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000036 r15: 0x00824370 r16: 0x00824370 r17: 0xbfffee90 r18: 0x00824378 r19: 0x00001813 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000001c r22: 0x70004234 r23: 0x700042c8 r24: 0x00000004 r25: 0x000006eb r26: 0x8081ab5c r27: 0x000639c0 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xbfffef00 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x00000001 ********** I have more logs for previous crashes, please tell me if necessary I can post them too. Please help me, I'm working in my final project and these crashes are not good for me.

Please, I need some ideas here! I can't work well with this... I can't belive my iMac is obsolete 1 year after I bought it! I must say scrolling is very slow, in both 9 and X.

I'm using VW Architect 9.5.2 in a Mac, and I'm drawing a very simple plan with only polylines (the levels of a mountain). After many lines it has became very slow in redrawing, and when I'm drawing the lines they appear with a significant delay after I click. This feels like working in an old computer! I have an iMac G3 400 mhz with 384 MB of RAM. It's not a 2002 model but I bought it last year! It should run faster. This happens in both OS X 10.1.5 and 9.2.2, although in X it's worse. My V card has 8 MB of RAM, but I'm able to play many games, visual plugins and others, I can't belive some polylines can slow my computer so much! The file is 427 kb with 213 objects in one layer. I have 150 MB of RAM assigned to VW (in Mac OS 9) and it reports 135 MB free. So it's not a RAM problem. In X memory is supposed to automatically adjust. I also tried lowering the number of undos, from 20 to 10, but the slowness of redraws and the pan tool are the same. Please, any idea of making this go faster?

I fixed it! I was typing the VW only serial number instead of the Architect serial....

I forgot to mention that when updating to 9.5 the installer only asks for VectorWorks and RenderWorks serial numbers. It doesn't ask for an Architect serial. Is this correct or may it be the problem?