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Posts posted by michael john williams
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I am a bit confused. I had thought 11.5 included Sketch but obviously not. I am disappointed that I have had VW11 for less than 6 months and we are already on the fifth upgrade. It is about time NNA got it right the first time round. The sketch facility has been around for a while and should have been included in 11 if they wanted to be at the forefront and offer value for money - but obviously they do not and I am afraid Sketch Up has beaten them to it for my custom. I might be sending 11 back as it does not do what is claimed and it is already out of date.
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Perhaps it is in 11.5?
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Is 11.5 available in the UK yet?
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Obviously speaking to VW die hards who think its the best thing in the world!
To answer some of your points which makes plenty of room for improvement for VW:
1. I like VW but it is more of a presentation package and as a 2D construction package is not as accurate or as good as the similar priced AutoCAD light.
2. It is certainly much quicker to draw elevations from scratch in 2D rather than 3D and 2D elevations look far superior.
3. The manuel is poor, why for instance is 'stairs' not in the index - a basic draughting requireemnt.
4. Why does it take several attempts to drag and drop windows or doors in walls?
5. I agree with Mike, it does not do well on the architectural front - but is this not a basic requirement? By now VW should be getting the basics right.
6. And it is too Ammerican.
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I agree too American - it is about time VW considered Europe and produce a European version with European English text and building descriptions and objects such windows, etc.
Or have they given up on Europe and are pushing All Plan?
VW is certainly not a quality 3D package yet as elevations completed in 3D are well below the standard of line drawn elevations.
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Thanks for all your advice and different options. Sounds so easy until you try it! Maybe I need architect and / or render works?
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Bin the viewer.
But how do you export to PDF from VW?
I usually export as an image file.
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I have it happen to me on a new pc so that is not the answer!
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After some VW training I have come back afresh, but can viewport elevations be ever as good as sepeatly drawn elevations? My trainer said they can't and so everyone he knows does not use viewport elevations. Which is a great shmae because I got VW because of its ? D capabilities. Do you agree?
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Some points for clarfication:
1. I have used VW for a number of years and so basic training is not necessary.
2. Although Nemetschek are promoting certified courses I have not found any in my locality.
3. Advice given by Nemetschek such as -
The plugins are editable directly in the Object Info Palette. You can change all the parameters right from in there.
Is simply incorrect and so you should appreciate my frustration. Advice is only good if it is correct.It was a simple technical question which does not warrent extensive training.
4. Dell and Microsoft offer free and good public technical support.
5. I am sorry you took my comments as personal insult as that was not the intention.
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Sorry for being tactless but I was purposly so as I am generally frustrated with wasting time reading poor manuels and following incorrect tech support from Nemetschek.Ofcourse if it is no worst then their competitors then I suppose it should be accepted.As an architect running my own business such poor service would be totally unacceptable. Note that Nemetschek have gone quiet on this and have not responded for several days - now thats what I call excellent response!
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Ahhhhhhhh...at last we are getting to the bottom of this........Nemetschek want me to buy more products or Architect to get over something which is wrongly or ineffectually explained in the Vectorworks 11 User Manuel!
It seems this happens a lot in VW11.
As it is Christmas perhaps Nemetschek should change its name to Scrooge!
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Thanks for your help.
It looks like VW11 comes with no editable symbols but just plug in objects.
So I was right, I can not edit any of the symbols / objects............and that is a great help!
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No I do not get edit 2d or 3d.
I go into the symbol. If I select edit again it says:
'The selected object has no edit behaviour'
If I select properties, the properties for Bath - Shower come up which can not be edited.
If I have the Object Info Pallete open then Object Info - Shape comes up when I select Edit by rifght clicking - but the Object Info is not editable.
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No you can not!
I have dragged and dropped the shower symbol into the drawing.
I right click on it to edit and the 913x913mm dim. remains brown and will not allow change / revision.
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A lot to check out here.....and thanks for your help.
Briefly there are not many symbols in red and so not many symbols are editable!
I have not got Architect just VW11.
The user manuel still says that all symbols are editable!
I will check it out further but if only the red symbols are editable then I have not got much choice and the user manuel is incorrect.....again!
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Well Jonathan if that is true why is it not allowing me to change the symbol dimensions when I double click on it?
For example, please explain how you can change the 913x913mm shower symbol to a 1200x1200mm shower by double clicking on it?
The info comes up but you can not change the width or depth.
I will try Travis 's way but it sounds complicated for a simple task........which I am beginning to think VW 11 is getting more so!
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Thanks George.
I will do a back up before I try it though.
I have only had to do a system restore when something drastic has gone wrong and you wish you had not started the day! It was effective.
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So how do you do it?
The user guide on 5-28 sys to select Edit from the Resources menu.........but there is no Edit on the Resources menu.
I am trying to change the 913mm square shower symbol to a 1200mm square shower and there is no way of doing it and other symbols!
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This is still not resolved by nemetschek!
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Well I feel pressure on to move all mcd files over to my documents.........so I suppose I should........just hope system restore works there for mcd files.
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What I was hoping was that the next update of VW would tackle this problem as keeping VW files in my documents is away from the rest of the project files and you end up having two files for each project in different locations.
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Thanks
I will email you the file.
Regarding system restore it was not problems with VW but it is effected by the system restore. Luckily I had disc copies of the drawings. But system restore is quiet a useful function and it is a pain if you can not use it because VW is not fully compatible with XP.
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Vectorworks is not fully compatible with Windows XP. Have you ever done a System Restore? Well if you do beware because you lose all your VW files! Surely this has got to be fixed otherwise you can never do a system restore. The only way round it is to store the files in My Documents but I donot want to do that as it places them apart from the rest of the project files.
Sketch Mode exclusion in 11.5 ???
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Great to hear that Sketch is in Vectorworks 11.5. Sorry I got it wrong but I thought people were saying you had to buy Architect to get it.
Pity the UK and Europe are treated second rate and we have not got our upgrade discs from our distributers yet.