Matt Overton
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Having spent some time REVIT of late and previous experience with other options out there, it seems there just isn't a good wall handle many of problems in any system.
Given everyone loves saying they have AI features why couldn't we use machine learning path-finding to attach a tag to a wall at lining changes and have AI determine how to fill out the available wall/surface between tags.
Instead of making it more complex make it so the wall has to handle less but much much better than it does currently. allow bots to handle the complexity.
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On 4/12/2024 at 11:46 PM, DBrown said:
To my knowledge, nothing has improved since then, and any improvements seem unlikely, I ponder sometimes if the focus of Vectorworks is architecture...
https://www.vectorworks.net/en-AU/public-roadmap?url=wall-modernization-83
Wall modernization has been on the roadmap in active research for a while now. Hey but at least Slabs/Roof modernisation got move to in development recently.
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1 hour ago, Jonathan Pickup said:
on the Mac, command+. (several times) stops all my rendering and brought me back to the publish window.
I think you'll find that it sends the previously rendered viewports back to wireframe.
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52 minutes ago, Jonathan Pickup said:
can't you do what you want already, changing the layers and classes on a single or several viewports at the same time? Am I misunderstanding something?
this is a completely different interface than the one you are in to edit layer visibilities so if you hit layers then need to adjact classes, or indeed realise you want to change a bunch of viewports you have to close one dialogue open another.
In contrast to a more modern tool with title blocks, most of the buttons take you to the same dialogue, add a revision then decide you also want an issue added at this time, or the project name/address needs an edit just jump between tabs in the same interface.
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For many tools the buttons on the PIO are shortcuts to tabs on the expanded settings dialogue. Once open you can just between various tabs of fix multiple things.
It would be great to see that as a standard approach.
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Force quit works if you saved before publishing. Which is wise anyway.
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On 3/25/2024 at 11:04 AM, Scrappy_Bogart said:
Hello all,
I am attempting to download a previous update: VW 2024 Update 2. I want this particular version because it was the last update I had where Vectorworks ran smoothly before I updated to Update 4.
Update 4 is beyond slow and the software application even crashes when rendering. My hardware is good and I have updated all drivers. At this point I would just prefer to get back to Update 2 so that I can get work done.
Does anyone know how to install a particular update version? I see that I can download VW latest '23 version, but I don't specifically see where Update versions can be downloaded.
It really is a bad release. I wonder how it got out of the virtual door?
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On 3/16/2024 at 5:59 AM, bc said:
I guess after jumping into 2024 and realizing things remain the same, I'll bump this issue.
When I have a viewport and a layer within it is specified as "greyed", I want exactly that. I want it to look like it does in top plan with all of it's 2D annotations, only greyed.
I don't want it to revert to greyed wireframe. Why it can't is all part of the great mystery.
So pretty please and thank you.
bc
You can hack this with various degree of success by using layer override colours.
set the black line and fill squares to grey and most objects will respond. Not always all doesn’t change image based resources.
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I've seen slabs so polluted by trimming modifiers the only choice was to throw them out and start again.
Does seem like the system should be rethought you can never really modify the modifiers as most edit operations make them unknown tot he slab, just delete them and reapply them.
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Tttleblock allow you to record both Revisions and issues. I've seen offices use One for client facing and have that list on the printed page and then use the other one showing up outside of the printed page for Internal tracking.
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Yes, Universal Vectorworks files would be great and it was put forward several times over the years as the reason for .vwx file change.
Still as a show of progress and to improve the usability of the Libraries, it would be a good test bed.
At a per-type level how many of the types have changed dramatically over the years?
Lots of objects have got a revamp but at the same time, they moved from Red Symbols being stored in the library to Object Styles Types.
The code to do the conversation if they are needed would exist,
Sure doing the conversion each year isn't much work but it seems it is enough to mean people just don't use the system.
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To avoid redundancy and other management problems, Library files should not be in a specific version of the file format.
They should be able to deliver the resource to the version of the app that being used regardless of what version of app saved the resource saved it.
Given that most resources are fairly small objects anyway, any background data conversion that happens to get it to work would be quick.
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- One True single library (per user or company-wide)
- Smaller Install, smaller footprint
- less management
- Set and forget each version wouldn't need new locations to be set so could just read the settings from prior install.
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On 3/20/2024 at 7:38 AM, E|FA said:I really hope VW doesn't get sidetracked with AI. Renderings (with disclaimers) is one thing, but generating design and construction documents is totally different. VW is a tool aimed at professionals. Please keep it that way.
I'm sure the technology will get there, but for the time being it seems to me that AI architecture programs will be useful for VR/gaming/advertising but not for real world uses other than schematic design ideas, replacing flipping through design magazines or websites. Based on stories of lawyers filing AI generated briefs with the AI inventing case citations, I wouldn't let AI anywhere near my construction documents. I doubt my clients (or insurer) would accept "the AI told me to do it" as an excuse.
I'm a "design" architect, yet so little of my time is generating the actual design. The bulk of my work is resolving problems and technical issues. I don't want VW to use development resources chasing AI, while so many tools I need to use every day could use fixes and improvements.
Yes surely the talent they might throw at AI could probably be more impactful targeting low hanging fruit of production killing issues.
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Also 3D clearances for parking structures
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18 hours ago, Christiaan said:
Fair point.
In theory, the AI could already author a vectorscript description of the Wall type you'd like to replace the wall type you had if there was enough of the function exposed in the VS documentation.
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33 minutes ago, Jeff Prince said:
Unfortunately, AI will be doing almost all the stuff within your lifetime.
Licensed pros will be required to sign off for liability purposes, until those laws change.
So, the tedious process of checking the AI "design" so stairs don't look like a rip off of a MC Escher design will still be needed 🙂
It's going to be like the transition from manual drafting to CAD to BIM...
only instead of outsourcing to India, you will be outsourcing to the cloud.
My first lecture in my first year of architecture started with that very line.
30 years later it is only marginally more true today than then and fails to understand how much further it has to.
So sure maybe in my lifetime I might read about it happening while in the nursing home.
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2 hours ago, Christiaan said:
Except that you would have had to have set up Materials in the first place. AI could do also do that. I want AI to do the tedious stuff, not the fun stuff!
Or the Program ship from your local distributor with most of the common ones in your market.
Then you'd only need to make a small handful of uncommon ones each year.
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44 minutes ago, Jeff Prince said:
If that’s the case, I wonder which company is going to successfully develop the successor to the architectural design and documentation process. AEC AI will probably follow the Revit -> Autodesk path, with a big fish swallowing up a smaller one.Innovation like this rarely occurs in house, especially when radically different tech is being developed. The old guard typically resists this and it takes outside eyes to shake it up. The company with the deepest pockets is probably going to win.
Add the potential VisionPro is showing and you have the specs sheet for the last CAD program I'll invest in, in my life time.
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1 hour ago, Christiaan said:
AI rendering is an obvious feature to add to Vectorworks, but what about adding AI to the interface to assist with modelling?
e.g. prompt: change plasterboard thickness of all Wall Styles in file to 15 mm
That shouldn't need AI just features like Materials to do the job they are said to do. 😉
Save the AI for Fun things.
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On 2/24/2024 at 12:14 AM, shorter said:
Who else thinks that the default storey levels should update all storeys when changed?
If we set our default 'Structural Slab Level' to -100mm, for example, at the start of the project and then change our mind when the floor buildup becomes a bit more resolved, it would seem logical that the 'default' structural slab storey level should control all instances of that storey level in all storeys of the building, no?
It seems to me that when we set storey levels we need a button like in styles, to make this 'styled' or 'instance', i.e. default or user editable.
Storey Styles, LOL I sort of Kid, but it does seem like the way they do things like this these days.
Still, a Storey Style might not be a bad single place to update in the project. We could have multiple in the same file, and we could transfer them from project to project or have a library of common project/construction types.
That said, I will always upvote better Storey/Layers/Levels to better represent common building practice.
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With an option for stacking them all on top of each other but creating a layer for each
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1 hour ago, JustinVH said:
You can cheat drawing lines of bicycle rack using the fence tool with a workaround. You just have to convert the fence to unstyled and choose the Infill in the dialog as the Infill Barrier Movable symbol which is bicycle rack and remove all the posts from the settings, set the spacing to the length of the bicycle rack and set all the heights to zero in the settings. Once the fence object is inserted you have to Cmd+K to convert the fence into a group so you can delete the posts that insert by default. I just did this and inserted over 200' of bicycle rack in under 30 seconds.
If you have a symbol, you want to lay out a regular spacing along a line, why not use the repetitive unit tool?
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Yes, it would be nice.
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On 1/15/2024 at 7:16 PM, Christiaan said:
The main annoyance I have is that it can stop a shut down on macOS.
I do use it though. I like the Messages centre plus all the links to various support and learning pages.
I think would be better like this too.
That is hopefully fixed as part of the non-modal change.
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2024 update4.1 regression - Offset Duplication
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Offset duplication resets to standard offset on auto-saving.
Offset-duplication will repeat the offset of the last duplication with the newly created object if you hit duplicate again (command-d). It will repeat this until you select a new object then revert to the standard 45º about 1m offset. With version 2024 update 4.1 release each time the autosave triggers the previously created object stays selected but the offset distance reverts to the standard.