RLKHydro

Whenever I change my perspective of a topo drawing the image ends up out in space somewhere and I have to go look for it and move my print area frame, in one particular drawing my image disappears completely when I try to render, ("Open GL") and I also have these problems at times when I want to add a layer or change the scale of a layer (layers not even involved with the layer the image is in? Please help! Val

Also, when we export a drawing w/3D loci as a .dwg and then open the .dwg in another program there are no points.

No, that we've been able to determine there is no way to export a data file in the new program. The only way we've been able to accomplish this is to do a "select all" and open a new drawing in VW8, set the units and paste in place. They likely won't land on your drawing, mine never do but none the less now you have your points in a place where they can be exported as a point file using the export vectorscript. Then you should be able to reimport them into Landmark. This is absolutely unacceptable, perhaps Vectorworks would be willing to provide an extra version8 disk for new customers. Anyway, here is a copy of the vectorscript. Be warned, we've only been able to get this to work in the old version. {The script begins below, this is a comment line} procedure coord; var x,y,z,ox,oy:real; i:integer; obj:handle; ofile:string; begin getorigin(ox,oy); obj:=factlayer; PutFile('Output file', ' ', ofile); write('X'); tab(1); write('Y'); tab(1); writeln('Z'); while obj<>NIL do begin i:=GetType(obj); if (i=9) then begin GetLocus3D(obj,x,y,z); x:=x-ox; y:=y-oy; write(x); tab(1); write(y); tab(1); writeln(z); end; obj:=nextobj(obj); end; close(ofile); end; run(coord); {This comment line ends the script} Good luckValerie

We have a set of data that includes imported survey data or 3D loci and 3D polygons that we created for a pond which is our modification to the existing ground. This creates a DTM but we need to bring this into an engineering program and want all 3D loci to do that. When we try to convert 3D polys to 3D loci we get an error message that says, "A vectorscript error has occured. Refer to the "error output" for a further explanation." I cannot see where there should be a problem. Thanks in advance for any advice. Val

How do you import/convert a TIN layer from a drawing file to a VW site model? We want to use Landmark to place symbols on the surface of the TIN/site model. We've tried with no success. Or, how do you import/convert 3D polylines from a dwg file to a VW site model? The 3D polylines in the dwg file were converted to 2D polylines. Short of hand converting 2D polylines to 3D polylines individually, surely there must be a way to carry the 3D entities (contours) for conversion to a VW site model.

Can Landmark produce labeled and gridded profiles and cross sections as is necessary in design work? Thank-you,Valerie McKayRLK Hydro

Lyle, I left a message on the board last week about my problems with importing and exporting survey data into and from Landmark and have recieved no responce as yet. I am no pro to begin with and have had a rather difficult time figuring if these problems are me or the program. If you would read my message titled Import/Export and tell me what you know I would appreciate it a great deal. I have been trying also to deal with these DTM's and am running into problems I know are me but can't seem to find the solutions to, for example, why when I change veiws does my DTM end up way out in space somewhere? I will be trying again today to figure these problems out but am wondering if I should just stick with version 8. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me. Valerie

I recently asked for suggestions on exporting Pt#,y,x,z&desc. so that this data could be downloaded into a total station for surveying purposes. Frank Brault responded with a Vectorscript that would Export Pt#,x,y,z&desc. for loci, thank-you Frank. It is as follows: {The script begins below, this is a comment line} procedure coord; var x,y,z:real; i:integer; obj:handle; ofile:string; begin obj:=factlayer; PutFile('Output file', ' ', ofile); write('X'); tab(1); write('Y'); tab(1); writeln('Z'); while obj<>NIL do begin i:=GetType(obj); if (i=9) then begin GetLocus3D(obj,x,y,z); write('<ID>'); tab(1); write(x); tab(1); write(y); tab(1); write(z); tab(1); writeln('<desc>'); end; obj:=nextobj(obj); end; close(ofile); end; run(coord); {This comment line ends the script} This would be fine but in Landmark when I import my survey data "stake objects" are created with all this information attached to them. The vectorscript as it is written won't export this data on stake objects I am guessing. I can turn these into loci one of two ways that I have dicovered, I can go to ortho view or ungroup these objects. In ortho the data is retained in the object info palette but the loci instantly turn back into stake objects and no data is exported. If I ungroup these objects they loose all the data except x,y,z info but then will export that data. Question #1: Why can I not choose to import as loci with this info connected (my personal preference)? #2: Can this script be rewritten to export data on stake objects? #3: When I import a survey file why do the points end up out in space somewhere? (They need to retain their true coordinate values and still end up in my drawing area.) #4: Why can we still not choose to set 0? at north? #5: I find that the older version of VW is much easier to do DTM's on, Landmark is still very confusing to me and I don't seem to get the same results, why? #6: I could die without an extend tool, is that what you want? Valerie McKay RLK Hydro

Marc, Thanks so much for your responses every time I am having trouble. Barb has said so many nice things about you I feel like we've met. Hopefully someday we will. I need to try to rewrite this script so that we get pt. no.,y,x,z,desc. instead of x,y,z as that is how it needs to be formatted for download into the total station we should be getting soon! If you have any more suggestions please feel free. I know I'll have more questions. Thanks again Marc and everyone else who has tried to help. Val McKay RLK Hydro

I have created a pond design for a client and then created a 3D model from 3D loci which I placed on my contours and gave z values to. At this point we need to go stake this pond out on the ground and need a data output file of coordinates and elevations. I expect there must be an easy way to do this that I cannot figure out. I also created some 2D x-sections of the pond expecting that perhaps I could retrieve some data from these. Apparently there is no information attached to these either. I have tried to contact tech support 3 times today only to wait on hold for several minutes at my expence and then get cut off. Do you have a 1-800 number I could call so tech support could truely be free? I would even pay if someone would just answer the phone! We are supposed to stake this out in just a few days so a quick response would be appreciated. Please let me know if I have gone about this all wrong and there is a better way. Valerie McKay RLK Hydro

Help! I have created a pond design for a client and then created a 3D model from 3D loci which I placed on my contours and gave z values to. At this point we need to go stake this pond on the ground and need data output file of coordinates and elevations. I expect there must be an easy way to do this that I cannot figure out. I also created some 2D x-sections of the pond expecting that perhaps I could retrieve some data from these. Apparently there is no information attached to these either. I have tried to contact tech support 3 times today only to wait on hold for several minutes at my expence and then get cut off. Do you have a 1-800 number I could call so tech support could truely be free? We are supposed to stake this out in just a few days so a quick response would be appreciated. Valerie McKay RLK Hydro

There is a "how-to" about scaling hatch patterns at: http://www.nemetschek.net/support/technotes/038.html Barb N.

quote: Originally posted by don: When is Landmark going to ready for shipping? Hello???? Can someone answer this question? We are wondering the same thing. Barb Nelson RLK Hydro, Inc.

Marc P. is right on about filtering and v8 DTMs--we can certainly hope that this is vastly improved in Landmark. another good troubleshooting technique is to look at your points in "front" view--sometimes there will be one or two points that are outliers or that are simply wrong that you can catch this way. But if your points are all in a very small range of z values, this won't help. Did you ever get it to work? Barb Nelson RLK Hydro

I just got off the phone with someone at customer service at NNA. He told me that Landmark won't ship until mid-May. Barb Nelson <refraining from additional comment> RLK Hydro, Inc.