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    Domas

    By Domas

    If you find that your file is presenting you with visual glitches or unexpected low performance behaviour, there is a chance that this is being caused by problems with the Origins setup in the file. This problem can occur when the Origins have been set up incorrectly or if stray objects are far away from the internal origin.  It is recommended that users of Vectorworks generally work within a 5km radius from the Internal Origin to avoid problems.

     

    Problems like this are common after importing DWG or any other file formats that were created without respecting this recommended working area radius. Here you will find steps on how to search for rogue objects that could have been accidentally placed somewhere far away from the internal origin:
     

    1.    Go to Tools > Organization > Saved Views and Create a New Saved view. Please make sure to click Save Layer Visibility and Save Class Visibility tick boxes. By doing this, we will be able to revert to the current state of the file in terms of layer and class visibilities, as further steps will require to turn all layers and classes on to be visible.

     

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    2.    Go to the Design Layers tab and make all your Design Layers visible. Hold Option (Mac), Alt (Windows) button on your keyboard and click on the Visible column pictured as a little eye icon.

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    3.    Repeat the same process for your Classes.

     

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    4.    Ensure you have both your Class and Layer Options set to Show/Snap/Modify Others.

     

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    5.    Ensure you have no objects Selected. You can double-check that in the Object Info Palette’s Shape Tab.

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    6.    While in Top/Plan view, click the "Fit to Objects" zoom option.

     

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    If, after performing these steps, Vectorworks will zoom out your design layer view and the drawing will appear to be very small or even in extreme cases barely visible on your screen, it means you must have a stray object sitting somewhere in the drawing. (We also advise doing the same procedure in Top/Plan view and a 3D view to make sure you don’t have objects far away, above or below the main drawing on the Z axis).

     

     

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    You can now use the Selection Tool around the main drawing and then go to Edit > Invert Selection. This should select every object that was beyond your initial selection. The Object Info Palette will then show how many stray objects you have and what they are. Make sure to move them close to the main drawing area or delete them if they are not important for the project and was placed there by accident.

     

     

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    Bennie Ber

    I run into this situation regularly. The issue I have is that I frequently work on GIS data downloaded from government sources, and the data falls far from the model origin. It does, however, facilitate GEOREFERENCING, which is very handy. Is there a methodology that preserves georeferemcing while solving the distance from the origin?

     

    Thanks.

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    Poot
    13 hours ago, Bennie Ber said:

    I run into this situation regularly. The issue I have is that I frequently work on GIS data downloaded from government sources, and the data falls far from the model origin. It does, however, facilitate GEOREFERENCING, which is very handy. Is there a methodology that preserves georeferemcing while solving the distance from the origin?

     

    Thanks.



    Yes, this is where you use/set the Internal Origin as the 0,0 of the project (e.g. corner of building/property line), while the User Origin is the 0,0 of the coordinate system used with surveys and GIS data.

    You can switch between the two in the Origin dialog box. Depending on if you need to import something in world coordinates (set user origin to match coordinate system) or whether you are just working on the project site (set user origin to match internal origin).

     

     

    You would ideally set the internal origin early on in the project, at an agreed location - which will also help with coordination between disciplines. You should find some tutorials from Tamsin Slatter on this.

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    Tom W.

    The new Survey Point Tool can now also be used to set the position of the Internal Origin

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    Bennie Ber

    Thanks, Poot and Tom!

     

    Now, does any of that affect my ability to Copy and Paste in Place among several files in the same project? i.e. a site model, and one or more structures?

     

    Thanks.

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    Tom W.
    1 hour ago, Bennie Ber said:

    Thanks, Poot and Tom!

     

    Now, does any of that affect my ability to Copy and Paste in Place among several files in the same project? i.e. a site model, and one or more structures?

     

    Thanks.

     

    If the User Origin is the same across the files the copying + pasting in place should work fine.

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