Still getting crashes randomly in 10.0.1

[Hugo]

Sorry, I've been posting a lot in the last time, but I have had some problems. A week ago one of my drawings turned into a 0 kb file and I had to redraw almost everything. Now I'm backuping in a separate folder to prevent something like that again.

Now I'm not happy because VW Architect 10.0.1 still crashes about three times a week. Of course it's the app I use the most so it's obvious I see more crashes than in others, but thius thing bothers me. VW is the only app that crashes constantly in my system. I also use Photoshop 7 and MS Office, along with Safari, Mail and iTunes and all of those apps never crash.

This crashes happen at any time and generally I'm doing very easy tasks at that moment, like panning or zooming, or just drawing a line. It happens with any file open, not only with a special one. I'm getting a bit crazy and saving almost every minute, but I think something is wrong here.

I erased and reformatted my HD about 1 month ago and everything has worked great except this random crashes. Otherwise VW runs fast and nice.

I'm using an iMac DV 400 mhz with 768 MB of RAM, under Mac OS X 10.2.3

Here are the crash logs, thay may be useful to catch the problem, or not?

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Date/Time: 2003-01-13 17:29:28 -0300

OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)

Host: Hugo.local.

Command: VectorWorks

PID: 374

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000050

Thread 0 Crashed:

#0 0x00f3f6dc in 0xf3f6dc

#1 0x00f3fd4c in 0xf3fd4c

#2 0x00f40358 in 0xf40358

#3 0x00f405c0 in 0xf405c0

#4 0x00f3f130 in 0xf3f130

#5 0x00f3f1b0 in 0xf3f1b0

#6 0x00da894c in 0xda894c

#7 0x001cf440 in 0x1cf440

#8 0x001cf910 in 0x1cf910

#9 0x001ed4a8 in 0x1ed4a8

#10 0x001ee234 in 0x1ee234

#11 0x001fcde8 in 0x1fcde8

#12 0x001fd08c in 0x1fd08c

#13 0x00463bc4 in 0x463bc4

#14 0x004681ac in 0x4681ac

#15 0x00466628 in 0x466628

#16 0x00466440 in 0x466440

#17 0x004662f4 in 0x4662f4

#18 0x00b16098 in 0xb16098

#19 0x00b16ad4 in 0xb16ad4

#20 0x00b17734 in 0xb17734

#21 0x00b1f0b4 in 0xb1f0b4

#22 0x00b22368 in 0xb22368

#23 0x00b119f0 in 0xb119f0

#24 0x00b126f4 in 0xb126f4

#25 0x00b216f8 in 0xb216f8

#26 0x00b214d4 in 0xb214d4

#27 0x00b22904 in 0xb22904

#28 0x005a0374 in 0x5a0374

#29 0x0055d2b0 in 0x55d2b0

#30 0x00205a28 in 0x205a28

#31 0x0021c50c in 0x21c50c

#32 0x0021d868 in 0x21d868

#33 0x0021d300 in 0x21d300

#34 0x00207ce8 in 0x207ce8

#35 0x0021ae3c in 0x21ae3c

#36 0x0021abdc in 0x21abdc

#37 0x00205c28 in 0x205c28

Thread 1:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun

#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific

#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv

#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_

#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x9022a75c in SwitchContexts

#3 0x90225008 in YieldToThread

#4 0x90243300 in SetThreadState

#5 0x9026d978 in SetThreadStateEndCritical

#6 0x0023e078 in 0x23e078

#7 0x0023c914 in 0x23c914

#8 0x0023c810 in 0x23c810

#9 0x0023cf4c in 0x23cf4c

#10 0x0023e3e4 in 0x23e3e4

#11 0x9023bdac in CooperativeThread

#12 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:

#0 0x90042688 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap

#1 0x9003e8b4 in _pthread_cond_wait

#2 0x90233384 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon

#3 0x9023c170 in TimerThread

#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:

srr0: 0x00f3f6dc srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000

xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00f3fd4c ctr: 0x00f3f1a0 mq: 0x00000000

r0: 0x00000044 r1: 0xbfffe830 r2: 0x01de2000 r3: 0x00000044

r4: 0x079262d8 r5: 0x07926408 r6: 0x00000130 r7: 0x00000003

r8: 0x03e9ddcc r9: 0x0420b053 r10: 0x0420b054 r11: 0xa0221734

r12: 0x01de2d78 r13: 0x00dcddfc r14: 0x00dcde04 r15: 0x01ce8814

r16: 0x00000003 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x0558fcc0 r19: 0x00000000

r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000000f r22: 0x0000000e r23: 0x0000000e

r24: 0xbfffee88 r25: 0x01ce5464 r26: 0x079262f0 r27: 0x01bba6fc

r28: 0x079262f0 r29: 0x0000001c r30: 0x07935ffc r31: 0x07926000

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Date/Time: 2003-01-18 21:17:19 -0300

OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)

Host: pc-204-50.san-francisco.pc.metropolis-inter.com

Command: VectorWorks

PID: 453

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c

Thread 0 Crashed:

#0 0x00f3f6dc in 0xf3f6dc

#1 0x00f3fd4c in 0xf3fd4c

#2 0x00f40358 in 0xf40358

#3 0x00f405c0 in 0xf405c0

#4 0x00f3f130 in 0xf3f130

#5 0x00f3f1b0 in 0xf3f1b0

#6 0x00da894c in 0xda894c

#7 0x001cf440 in 0x1cf440

#8 0x001cf910 in 0x1cf910

#9 0x001ed4a8 in 0x1ed4a8

#10 0x001ee234 in 0x1ee234

#11 0x001fcde8 in 0x1fcde8

#12 0x001fd08c in 0x1fd08c

#13 0x00463bc4 in 0x463bc4

#14 0x004681ac in 0x4681ac

#15 0x00466628 in 0x466628

#16 0x00466440 in 0x466440

#17 0x004662f4 in 0x4662f4

#18 0x00b16098 in 0xb16098

#19 0x00b16ad4 in 0xb16ad4

#20 0x00b17734 in 0xb17734

#21 0x00b1f0b4 in 0xb1f0b4

#22 0x00b22368 in 0xb22368

#23 0x00b21784 in 0xb21784

#24 0x00b1bf04 in 0xb1bf04

#25 0x00b1b9e4 in 0xb1b9e4

#26 0x00c41234 in 0xc41234

#27 0x00b1b158 in 0xb1b158

#28 0x00b1ab28 in 0xb1ab28

#29 0x00c3fd58 in 0xc3fd58

#30 0x00c3f954 in 0xc3f954

#31 0x00c3f8f8 in 0xc3f8f8

#32 0x00c43430 in 0xc43430

#33 0x003387e8 in 0x3387e8

#34 0x00204f64 in 0x204f64

#35 0x0020533c in 0x20533c

#36 0x00230a34 in 0x230a34

#37 0x00205290 in 0x205290

#38 0x0021d69c in 0x21d69c

#39 0x0021d2d8 in 0x21d2d8

#40 0x00207d24 in 0x207d24

#41 0x0021ae3c in 0x21ae3c

#42 0x0021abdc in 0x21abdc

#43 0x00205c28 in 0x205c28

Thread 1:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun

#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific

#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv

#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_

#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x9022a75c in SwitchContexts

#3 0x90225008 in YieldToThread

#4 0x90243300 in SetThreadState

#5 0x9026d978 in SetThreadStateEndCritical

#6 0x0023e078 in 0x23e078

#7 0x0023c914 in 0x23c914

#8 0x0023c810 in 0x23c810

#9 0x0023cf4c in 0x23cf4c

#10 0x0023e3e4 in 0x23e3e4

#11 0x9023bdac in CooperativeThread

#12 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:

#0 0x90042688 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap

#1 0x9003e8b4 in _pthread_cond_wait

#2 0x90233384 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon

#3 0x9023c170 in TimerThread

#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:

srr0: 0x00f3f6dc srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000

xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x00f3fd4c ctr: 0x00f3f1a0 mq: 0x00000000

r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffe790 r2: 0x01de2000 r3: 0x00000000

r4: 0x0b50d278 r5: 0x0b50d3a8 r6: 0x00000130 r7: 0x00000003

r8: 0x03e9ebac r9: 0x041f6b23 r10: 0x041f6b24 r11: 0xa0221734

r12: 0x01de2d78 r13: 0x00dcddfc r14: 0x00dcde04 r15: 0x01ce8814

r16: 0x00000003 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x04e78d50 r19: 0x00000000

r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000000f r22: 0x0000000e r23: 0x0000000e

r24: 0xbfffede8 r25: 0x01ce5464 r26: 0x0b50d290 r27: 0x01bba6fc

r28: 0x0b50d290 r29: 0x0000001c r30: 0x0b51cffc r31: 0x0b50d000

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Date/Time: 2003-01-26 12:09:35 -0300

OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)

Host: pc-204-50.san-francisco.pc.metropolis-inter.com

Command: VectorWorks

PID: 401

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x481400c1

Thread 0 Crashed:

#0 0x00dcc430 in 0xdcc430

#1 0x00a58418 in 0xa58418

#2 0x007ae994 in 0x7ae994

#3 0x00a6163c in 0xa6163c

#4 0x00a62f0c in 0xa62f0c

#5 0x00a63bdc in 0xa63bdc

#6 0x00a63a28 in 0xa63a28

#7 0x00a01cec in 0xa01cec

#8 0x00a6460c in 0xa6460c

#9 0x00a01f00 in 0xa01f00

#10 0x004c2d78 in 0x4c2d78

#11 0x005c87f4 in 0x5c87f4

#12 0x005c8af4 in 0x5c8af4

#13 0x002acb14 in 0x2acb14

#14 0x002081c0 in 0x2081c0

#15 0x0021e47c in 0x21e47c

#16 0x0021db60 in 0x21db60

#17 0x0021ae58 in 0x21ae58

#18 0x0021abdc in 0x21abdc

#19 0x00205c28 in 0x205c28

Thread 1:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun

#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific

#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv

#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_

#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 2:

#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap

#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg

#2 0x9022a75c in SwitchContexts

#3 0x90225008 in YieldToThread

#4 0x90243300 in SetThreadState

#5 0x9026d978 in SetThreadStateEndCritical

#6 0x0023e078 in 0x23e078

#7 0x0023c914 in 0x23c914

#8 0x0023c810 in 0x23c810

#9 0x0023cf4c in 0x23cf4c

#10 0x0023e3e4 in 0x23e3e4

#11 0x9023bdac in CooperativeThread

#12 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

Thread 3:

#0 0x90042688 in semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap

#1 0x9003e8b4 in _pthread_cond_wait

#2 0x90233384 in TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon

#3 0x9023c170 in TimerThread

#4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:

srr0: 0x00dcc430 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000

xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x007d2944 ctr: 0x00f3f110 mq: 0x00000000

r0: 0x007d2924 r1: 0xbffff460 r2: 0x01bb6000 r3: 0x04bb95b0

r4: 0x00000001 r5: 0x01de6c78 r6: 0x000000d1 r7: 0x00000001

r8: 0x04bb7bfc r9: 0x01c98c88 r10: 0x01c98c54 r11: 0x01c96c28

r12: 0x481400c1 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000

r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000

r20: 0xbffffea0 r21: 0xffffffff r22: 0xbffffc60 r23: 0x01ce1fa8

r24: 0x0003f919 r25: 0xbffffad6 r26: 0x01ce1fa0 r27: 0x04bb0710

r28: 0xbffff4f4 r29: 0x04bb95b0 r30: 0x04bb071a r31: 0x04bb7bf0

[Guest]

Are you running any of the other mentioned applications while VW is running?

[Hugo]

Katie:

Thanks for answering!

Most of the time I run VW 10.0.1 along with Mail, MSN Messenger and Safari (or IE before Safari appeared). Other times VW is the only running app. Almost never I run VW with Photoshop or Word.

I think the crashes can happen randomly. What I forgot to mention is that evrytime it's going to crash, I know it will, because the program gets sudenly slow and the HD makes a noise (as if I was saving a file or something like that)

[Guest]

Do you save this file to the server or to your local machine?

Do you have backup saving turned on?

If so, is it saving to the server?