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This topic was originally introduced in General thread by pclary, December 29, 2016. Redo of topic here for bug verification. Fastener placement on working planes is problematic - Working As Designed? Bugs? Graphics card related? Or? Summary: If a custom working plane is activated via the Working Plane Palette, and then a 3d mode of any fastener tool is enabled via the Fastener Tool Set, then: 1. The custom working plane is deactivated on screen and the Working Plane Palette item changes to have a gray background. 2. vwx creates a new, temporary working plane (ie this new plane does not manifest in the Working Plane Palette). • This new working plane is parallel to the Layer Plane • This new working plane has same origin as the former custom working plane. 3. The custom working plane can be reactivated while the tool is active: • dbl click on the desired custom item in the WP Palette. • The tool will now place a fastener object on the custom working plane. 4. Except a Special Case: • The Fastener Tool in 3d mode (1st tool in the tool set) always places the fastener object with origin and axis on the layer plane. Tool apparently cannot place a fastener origin and axis on any plane other than the Layer Plane. • Automatic Plane is not available when Fastener Tool 3d mode is active. Demo video: https://vimeo.com/197646616 -B