Ian Forbes

Hi Dworks, "Dragging to open a file can only be done on Mac...." Good for Mac!!! But I never said anything about having any "Open" files or needing the Programs open. Everything I was asking about and referencing in Pshop, was all done "behind the scenes".... in what ever OS File Manager we are using, be that Win Explorer or whatever the Mac version is. (Sorry, I dont know its name). Pshop doesnt have to be open to move any Brush or Shape Sets around and I, personally, would like to see that same functionallity applied to VW. My reasoning/question is, that if one Software Co.(Adobe) can do this why cant they all? Is that really too much to ask? Making things even easier for the End User? Perhaps VW could develope this in conjunction with Adobe (though unlikely, I'd suspect)? "you should use correct terms if you want others to understand you." ...... And perhaps you should re-read my posts! Bye,

Where in this entire Thread, have I EVER claimed to be Power User? Thanks for the warm Welcome too by the way! This is my first thread here. FAR friendlier at the Lightnetwork. Talk about getting the "Warm and Fuzzies"! You didnt have to repsond.... in any way shape or fashion.... if this bored you. Goodbye.

Petri, Well, excuse me for never having gone through this process! I'm not a "Power User" as you appear to be. Excuse me for asking for specific, clear answers! Excuse me for not wanting to "F up" my new install! I tried this once before, when moving from Ver9 > Ver11, without luck. Good Grief!

Ray, Thanks for that clarification. I guess there is some confusion about Files vs Folders vs Symbols in my mind. I dont think of a Symbol as a File, even if that is what it actually is. A File to me, is strickly an actual Drawing, in terms of VW. A Folder is where I'd keep that Drawing. Thanks,

"You don't have a folder in Windows, you have a single VectorWorks file (AVW-Tele....) that contains a bunch of symbol folders. When you try to open this file in VW2008, it will automatically update everything in the file to the new 2008 standards. It will even ask you hwat to do about the name. You can either assign the old file the name with a VW11 appended to the end or append a 2008 to the new file." OK.... So I can just "Drag" it over to 2008?? I'm not upgrading to VW2008.... I'm doing a whole, brand new install to Designer. There wont be any "update" process. '08 wont even know Ver11.5 is on the same Hard-Drive! As to your comment about Photoshop and file formats, the change in file formats is what allows VW to grow. Without a modified file format, we would not have Section Viewports, Cavity Lines in viewports, 2way worksheets, and many other functions. Ah.... thats an answer I can understand..... partly. Some amount of Backwards Comaptiblity should be possible though. VW2008 will just open the files and do the conversion automatically. Further to my first responce, how do I get them into 2008? When you use an old brush in CS3, is there any kind of conversion that is done? Can you take it right back out and use it in VER6? You can export back out of VW2008 if you need to get back to VW11, but you will loose the new functions. Yes, you can just move the Brush Set whenever, wherever you want and like. (To the best of my knowledge) As I said previously though, a CS3 Brush isnt backwards compatible. Perhaps there is some "behind the scenes" converting form older brushes to CS3, but PS is so fast, I dont notice it. I realise that I'm start to labour a point here but I'm persuing this because if I'm having issues, then others are too. I'd like to have this clear in my own head, so I can help others. Also, perhaps I should have included the following screenshot too! Thanks, Ian

Ok..... JPEG might not be the best example (as that would equate to a full drawing) but my point still stands as far as Pshop Brushes and Shapes. They are essentially "symbols" and whether they were made in Ver6 or CS3.... CS3 can read and use them all. (Yes... I know VER6 cant read CS3... I'm not asking for that.) Heck.... perhaps PS is doing that automatically, in the background (I seriously doubt it though!) "Drag and Drop" a new Brush Set from any Version is as easy as blinking. Ray.... Thanks for the extra clarification. Still dont "get" the whole issue. Its still not User Friendly, having to go through extra steps to use what you already can happily enough. A Brush is a still a Brush...... Thanks to All once again,

Ah... Thank You. I'll have to fully digest the Manual Section on that..... I'll get back to everyone, once I've do so! This is quite frustrating, really. Why make Resources Version Specific??? If a symbol has already been happily used numerous times in a previous version, why cant that "code" be "kept over" into the newer one? After all.... we can all EASILY open a JPEG in whatever version of Photoshop (for example)we happen to be using. I dont have to go and "Batch Convert" all my shots into "Ps CS3", now that I have it.... I just simply open them!! No trouble at all. In Pshop, a Brush is a Brush and a Shape is a Shape, etc.... regardless of which older version it came from, CS3 sees it without issue. Thanks again for clarifying what the guys were trying to say!

Well.... you're all "wrong". A) NEVER used ACAD...... what I'm hoping to do is identical to regular Folder moving in Windows Explorer. B) Its one "Folder" with 100+ symbols.... thats how is was give to me via USB stick. All I had to do was drag and drop it. It worked perfectly, first time. C) No Pat.... please see the attached screen shots. (Note the 4th is actually 2-in-1, via photoshop) D) Perhaps you all have answered the question..... that VW forces you into doing this convoluted, jumping through hoops, not make things User Friendly kinda way. If "D" is true..... why??? If I can move, say an CD album, from one "My Music" to another "My Music 2008" just by Dragging, why do we have to "export"/"save as"/"convert" in VW? Are things "re-coded" inside the App, so much that this is nigh impossible? Thanks again,

Hi Christian, Thats not quite what I was after... but Thanks anyway! I have a custom Folder, visible in W.E., that I'd like to drag over to 2008. (much like moving any other folder around in Windows). There are over 100 individual symbols inside this folder..... so to place one of each in a standard file/drawing could be done but I'd rather just drag the folder over.

Hi, If this has been asked before, sorry. (Please tell me where the thread is!) How can I "import" symbols from one version to another? Hopefully, its a case of "Dragging" them inside Windows Explorer from one to the other? If not..... then why not? Why cant it be that simple? Thanks,