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Don, Peter,
Using the 3d polygon tool when in "stacked layers" is the way to layout your gound poly. This way you can visualize the slope of the ground in a 2d environment while you draw in 3d reality. Once you have the closed 3d polygon, switch off stacked layers then convert the 3d poly to a 2d polygon (Modify -> Convert -> Convert to Polygon command). When you have it in this form than you can do an extrude and position your solid where you want. Be aware that when you shade the 3d poly you will need to set its class attribute to solid for shading to take affect. See graphic below. I did this simple ground mass in about 30 seconds.
Pete Anthony
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Don,
I have found it usefull to have identical Acad layers and VW classes for import of Acad DATA. I usually will create a sacrificial class and call it depot (junk in-junk out), make the import, move the data to appropriate classes then remove the Acad imported class. On most of the Acad imports I have done I always get misc junk from the import. Since I began isolating Acad data my stress level has been reduced.
Jonathan,
The repetitive tool is very usefull...good advice.
Pete A.
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Arch.Ken and Robert
The situation with the lines on the door and window elevations kind of stumped me until I really saw the scale of how far apart the lines were from each other.
Now if I were really pickin' at VW I might have a case but if i'm not mistaken the zoom factor is at 100,000,000,000%
!! is that billion?
Well I'm not going to split hairs here because I don't have much to split but I think that might be close enough....maybe....OK
Let's all get to work.
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OK...so there really is no software out there that is perfect. ...but there is one that is close (more later)
I've used Auto CAD, Builders CAD, ARRIS, Chief Architect, Softplan, Data CAD and Vectorworks along with a few others that I'm embarrased to mention. I run a residential design firm and have for years searched for a software that does exactly what it claims.....havn't found it yet...and don't think it's out there. My standards are pretty high and I have found VW to be the most versitle (for the price) in allowing me to produce condocs that communicate the right information to the field. From remodel to new construction the building model is the way to go. Sometimes it seems time consuming and tedious but it is always worth the effort when I recieve feedback from the field that I saved time, effort and money in construction because the drawings were so precise. I just spoke with a client today who admitted that if the framer would have followed the drawing three specific issues would have been averted. They were minor however the drawings are where the buck stops...and if the field does not have confidence in your drawings you've failed to produce what your being paid for.
nuf said...
VW saves me time....and time is money. If I can create, design and develop in less time with a tool that must be sharpend than I will keep it sharp. You should never expect a product to give you perfect results until you learn how to use the tool. Software is another tool in the construction process and VW does a pretty good job at providing the tools. If it is not doing what I expect than I must be doing something wrong. I tell all my employees... you have the brains.... the computer is just a bunch of switches...flip the right switches.
Now here is a place to see all the software out there...
http://www.architecturalcadd.com/weblinks.html
It's all there you be the judge...what do you want the tool to do?
Pete Anthony
OVE Plan Service
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Thanks Grant M I will give this a try....duh should have seen that one commin....makes alot of sense.
Pete
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When I import an ACAD file (brought in a site plan from surveyor)the dashed line types all went nuts. I had to rebuild them all. This is the second time this has happened. The first time I thought it was something I had done but now I have isolated the instance to an auto cad import.
Question is.....I do not see any setting in VW at the import window that will overlook any linetypes or linescale issues.
Is this normal? ....And... Should I expect this to happen every time I import from ACAD? Or...? does anyone have suggustions?
Pete Anthony
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Thought I would post the latest drawing using viewports exclusivly. I built the model and left it alone and then used viewports to communicate the documents.
I realize I have a lot to learn but VW has given me a far better presentation than most other CAD systems as well as giving me the confidence of knowing that my house will build the way I've drawn it.
Pete Anthoy
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Robb,
I have worked with some of the most powerfull CAD systems on the market. VW has, by far, been able to keep me as a customer because of their drawing capability along with the functionality of the modeling. I am able to produce quality drawings and at the same time build a model that gives me complete confidence in it's build-a-bility. Not to mention the fact that I can pick a point anywhere on the drawing platform an find a point. VW is a true draftsmans system.
PA
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I am sure that VW spent a consideralble amount of time in creating viewports to help filter and support multiple similar entities to reside on top of models in paper space. Similar to ACAD...viewport annotations provide the user the ability to create multiple views of the same model with alternate notes that communicate clearly the intention of the model without the need to manage redundant class assignments. As I grow in the knowledge of VW and the logic behind the machine it becomes almost necessarry to follow their lead in using the annotation tools within viewports. Class management is clunky in the model and requires front side discipline to make sure the user is putting things on the proper class.
VW is moving closer to a true model based design system which seperates the notes and dimens from the intelligent information. This allows us to manipulate the model without regard to paperspace. Notes and Dimens are added in a lower level than the model where they should be.
Now all they need to do is reduce the file size to improve speed....
Pete Anthony
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I gotta have my viewports (hidden line and all). Quicker than any other CAD I've used by far even with the minor glitches.
This roof issue has come up a couple of times now and can be frustrating having to cover up a vertical end condition that should be a double mitre as entered. It appears when you project a roof plane up from a lower level to a upper level with horizontal fascia on both levels in one plane surface. I need these planes intact for framing (which by the way has shown it's ugly head in not finding the proper angle pitch automatically).
I have seen some work from other VW users and they have a tendency to not rely to heavily on viewports. I, however have found them to save time.
Oh well....trudging on...
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I have pasted the following roof structure which identifies some problems that some of you have encountered and found a work around to correct. Most of the roof structures I do are pretty complex requiring the "roof face" tool rather than the "create roof" command. There are two main issues that make for addittional work to cover up in vieport elevations.
The image below identifies the basic structure to show complexity.
Next is a close up of the front roof face that shows the fascia to the right does not build the double cut mitre properly.
The same fascia from alternate perspective
As you can see the hidden line plan view is unaffected
However the next two views show the work that must be done to cover up the fascia lines...but the double mitre cut is in every gable end also showing two lines.
If anyone has experienced the same problem and found a solution let me know.
Pete Anthony
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I've tried to duplicate the visible seam and cannot reproduce the condition. Does it have anything to do with transparency of the walls surfaces. Does this condition show in normal perpendicular wall joins.
Stumped
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The upper wall is actually two walls. I started from the right using the left outside line of the wall then came over the top of my lower wall and set a point...then continued up in the "+y' direction the thickness of the wall. This gives me a total exterior finish wrap on the upper celestory wall and joins the seams to the lowerwall for hidden line and also rederworks.
I turned the end caps on the walls to clarify.
I hope this helps
Pete Anthony
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Arch.Ken
Is this what you are trying to accomplish
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Mar,
If you are using negative layer elevations you will recieve the error. It's a bug. Change the design layers to stack all in the positive direction with 0.0 at your lowest level or...put the stair height in manually in the PIO. In order to find the bad stair you will need to exit VW and come back to the job to make the edits to the stairs. Once the error shows up the only way to get the PIO back is to restart VW.
Pete Anthony
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Arch.Ken
Ramon PG
Please go to http://www.optimumve.com/Downloads/WallJoins.pdf
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http://www.optimumve.com/Downloads/WallJoins.zip
to find my take on the multiple walls with shifted wall seams. I provided several cases were wall joins can and do not work. Take a look at the PDF and also the ZIP file...it contains a VW file called WallJoins.mcd which I have the wall types displayed.
In reference to the line weight issue on the elevations and plans I produce...I am still experimenting with VW. The Jarvis project is using Class Attributes to assign the weights universally. My next project will seperate them individually. Hope to have it posted soon...you know clients come first.
Thanks for your comments...every bit helps.
Pete Anthony
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Arch.Ken
Absolutly! I use viewport elevations for 2d and 3d views. Go to http://www.optimumve.com/Downloads/ where you can see a project that I completed about a month ago.
I noticed that you are having collisions with your roof planes to your wall and chimney. Did you cut your roof around all penetrations. I have found VW to work excellently in this area, however the model must be correct for the viewports to work as I want them . I spend many hours building the model in order to have my elevations work right.
I will be uploading a new project tomorrow that uses BIM techniques very efficiently. I will post to this board when complete.
Pete Anthony
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I have found the same problem when using a negative floor height value in the design layers. I now use only positive values and the stairs work fine. One note with the stair PIO...once you have an issue with the stairs than you will not be able to edit the stairs again until you re-start VW. I have also run into the stair PIO adding risers to the when you use the show risers function for upper and lower floors. The function added the total number of risers in the entire stair. I asked for 10 to show on the first floor and all 17 to show on the second. The PIO built the stairs with 27 risers....! I deleted and built a new set. Wierd!
I think the stair PIO need more work to get it right.
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I had a major problem with this happening when I first loaded VW12. When you originally load the QT it prompts you to download the latest version. Bad idea! VW will not work wit XP when the QT latest version (with ITUNES) is resident on the maching. Delete all occurance of QT...I mean everything...then reload VW from the disc. All of you local files will be OK if you have them located in independent folders outside of VW. Also I have found VW12 to be much more stable when you create seperate folders for each database project and set the auto save to create back-up to the resident folder. I also had to change my video card...VW was acting up until I gave it a good video card to pacify it.
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Not to make things out to be more than they appear to be....it seems as though you are working in a residential environment which typically is rather simple with content. Each level of a building may have all of the above depending on the structure. We have found that it makes sense to establish both floor and ceiling plans for all levels including the basement. If the level does not require framing for the ceiling than don't use the layer or classes. However, we seem to use all of the above in each level of a home. Basements, most of the time do not have a seperate ceiling plan unless part of the structure is exposed above grade with a roof above necessitating a ceiling. If you plan for it than your layers and classes will be available to frame on.
Pete Anthony
OVE
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Katie,
Thank you for the reply.
However, with all that you have provided I am still unable to create any new objects with the chain extrude command. If I make an object 1" x 3" x 3' (x,y,z) and place on top of it another object 3" x 3' x 1" as my profile in the current drawing it it not recieved by the chain extrude as a profile temporary or not. Even if I create this object in the 10_Wall Accessories.mcd. file I am not able to make my own defined chain extrude. Am I missing something? It seams that the objects contained in 10_Wall Accessories.mcd have be saved as chain extrude objects which I am not able to modify and achieve any results. When I tried to modify the existing objects they will no longer chain extrude. This tool seems to be very vague in its ability. Still need much help in understanding this rocket science.
Thanks,
Pete Anthony
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I have been trying without luck to figure out how to operate the chain extrude command provided in Tool Sets. There is not much help provide by VW on this command that I believe should be very useful in adding detail to our models on elevation. The tool is requiring "valid objects in the profile" in which to build the chain. I have not been able to provide any object of any profile to get this tool to work.
If there is anyone out there who has figured this one out I could use your help.
Thanks ahead for your help.
Pete Anthony
OVE
12.0.1 Architect
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At OVE we are production plan service using several types of CAD systems...VW being the latest. What we have found to be similar in all of our systems is that we insert the door without the trim defined. Once inserted to the correct position it is a minor step to edit the doors later. We have found...however that we set up our doors and windows for that matter to have as little data as possible so as to achieve a true and correct install to the rough size of the unit. This way when we frame our walls the studs fall to the correct opening on the rough. We have found it a major pain to add trim before the insert and achieve the correct rough opening dimensions allowing for proper clearance from inside corners. When we show a symbol on the condocs it is a true reflection of what will be built with all dimensional data extremly accurate.
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Recieving error when selecting wall style to insert...
"Rename the Wall Style named FRAME 2X6 INT. The wall style was used on another design level however it is not located in the wall styles under the project.
Also tried to create new class named "Wall-Ext-Hidden" It now appears hidden and non selectable. Cannot find anyway to make it visible in the classes.
3D foundation technique???
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If you are needing to present using hidden line than you will need to extrude a solid of the foot print and use subtract solids to achieve a good hidden line around the model. See Picture below
Pete Anthony