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  1. Regarding classes, yes they are for signifying what something is, but they can also define the material of (or within) that what.

    And so (reiterating what I touched on earlier), I have classes for objects like walls eg. Wall-External, Wall-Internal, Wall-Half Height, Wall-Exist etc, and structure eg. Structure-Slab, Structure-Framing, Structure-Column etc, but also seperate classes for the components within those objects eg. Component-Concrete, Component-Brickwork etc.

    What you may not be aware of is, that if you place most of your objects to be set to their class settings, you can override these class settings in the class popup in your sheet layer viewports. So not only can you then change the fills, hatches and textures etc but you can, selecting a sheet layer viewport in the Object Info Palette, Advanced Properties choose to show or hide wall components.

    This means, at schematic design, you can use the components for 3D rendering, but turn them off in your plans to keep them simple, and turn on a sketch style for the hand drawn look. Then when you advance to the next stage, you can turn the components back on, and voila! They are back. Hope that helps.

  2. Hello People's,

    If I may weigh in...

    Generally I will use by component, but there is no absolute rule whether to assign material by object or by component. At the start of a project, developing components for walls and slabs can take time, so I might assign by object, but as it progresses, I will move over to by component. Also I will often assign existing walls and buildings to by object, as I will render them in a dark grey, as so they may stay by object for the full duration of the project.

    For components I use a "Component-..." series of classes that relate to finishes/materials. For example, it doesn't matter if a concrete material is used in a wall or a slab etc, as long as it has the same finish (texture) I will use the same class.

    For the settings of these classes, I have preset colours, line weights, hatches, textures etc so that if I render in 3D, cut a section in 3D, or drawing a 2D detail, the same class is used.

    Why do this? The benefits are that there no longer are wall, slab, stair, roof etc component classes, just material and finishes classes. Also these classes can relate directly to my finishes schedules.

    PS I also use floor objects for a multitude of 3D work that needs to read correctly in 2D. As mentioned above, kitchen benches are a great example.

    Hope that helps.

  3. Hi Jim,

    While you are on the topic of classing, on the Vectorworks Architect side I have also found there are at least two other objects with auto-classing bugs, both overriding our class standard. I think these are being overridden from the VwArch standard, shuttling our classes into the VwArch standard, even though our standard is active. These are;

    • Stair Tool - Places handrail and guardrails into Fixtures-Main class, and Stair Data in Vert Trans-Spec class. I was able to get around this by turning auto-classing off in File > Document Settings > Standard Naming…
    • Terrain Model - In graphic properties, when I try to change classes, classes are overridden and placed in what appear to be VwArch standard classes (e.g. 3D Fill - Landscape-Areas). I was only able to get around this by deleting the ClassNameStds worksheet (containing our standard) in Resources. Turning auto-classing off did not fix this.



    PS Is it just me, or are terrain model objects taking longer than usual to update?

  4. I am sure I have seen this functionality at work in C4D do with it's scripting language. Whilst I wouldn't expect it in the next version of Vectorworks — the back end frameworks should be there if we ask.

    Jim? ;)

  5. Hi Jim,

    Does this mean we will have to wait for SP5 to see this sorted? Do you have a timeline as to when that might be released? (The Australian version normally drops a few weeks later).

    I think this is the first time I have experienced a Vectorworks service pack adding bugs. For our interior projects, we use tiles extensively, so it looks like we will have to go back to SP3 for the time being.

    PS For me this is only happening with tiles, not hatches.

  6. Hi,

    Australian version of SP4 just dropped. Have been trying to export PDF's containing Tiles objects. The only thing that exports are the tile objects next to the tile mapped origin.

    Have only tested one physical print, but works as expected.


    PS Tried creating PDF from Print dialogue, and that also works normally (but obviously at a quality that is not nearly as good as the Export to PDF or Publish commands).

  7. Also being able to default text styles to the class colour containing the text object would would be great. Thanks again.

    Hi Jim,

    Did we get anywhere with this particular request?

    I have just had a colleague attempting to change the colour to a detail marker. The marker colour changed, but the text did not. Took me a few seconds before I remembered the text style was overriding the colour of the text. Would great to have the request above.

    Thank you.

  8. Hi Jamie,

    Some thoughts.

    1 . Input devices are all about trade-offs. By mixing it up between my Apple Mighty Mouse and the Wacom Intuos 5 Small, I have found it helps to combat RSI, as well as breaking down rigid thought that can come with using one input device.

    2. I have found a smaller tablet better for faster movement around the desktop, and less forearm movement.

    3. The mouse is more accurate for CAD. The tablet is made for free form hand work. I find CAD can be a bit of challenge with a tablet due to hand shake (especially with the tablet mapped across multiple displays). Ironically the shake is more than likely made worse by a smaller tablet, but I think much less uncomfortable than the arm fatigue of a larger tablet.

    4. I use an iPad Air with an Adonit Jot Flip stylus, running the Notability app for sketching details, project meetings, site notes, and PDF markups. There is also Notability Mac app that syncs via iCloud. So I can choose either Mac or iPad and achieve a similar experience on both.

    Hope that helps.

  9. Hi Jim,

    In addition to Tom's query regarding project sharing, whilst it seems to have considered the most important requirements of sharing, it looks rather complicated for the average user.

    -Could there be different levels of sharing for different sized projects?

    -What considerations have been given to sharing remotely, and file size?


  10. Hi Jim,

    Additionally, one of our team noted that they were getting a Message Bar "Autosave timer reset" message when the file was no longer saving. Not sure if that helps.

    PS I normally use column view. Will monitor as requested.

    Monitoring Update

    File not selected in column view—no problems all morning.

    File selected in column view—Vectorworks crash upon third save attempt.

    -None of the save notifications at the moment, but saving with the file selected is definitely taking more time, and feels like Vectorworks is going to crash (which it did as described above).

    -Save notation this time. I had accidentally selected a file in the Finder, that I had open, but wasn't working on. All in column view.

    Will keep posting as I gain more data points. Thanks.

  11. Hi Jim,

    We are having this issue as well on both Vectorworks 2015 SP1 & SP2. If we work on the desktop, we don't experience the issue. We are presented with the "10 minutes has elapsed since the first operation…", as well as “The file save operation failed. Please try again, or save to a different location” dialogues, and we can save over the file on the server, that we have been working on.

    Additionally, we have had at least two instances of Vectorworks saving throughout the day (at least we thought it was), without being presented with this dialogue, and yet the file was not saved on the server, and ended up loosing a day of work in one case, and a couple of hours in another. I think Vectorworks crashed, and it was when we re-opened the files that we noticed Vectorworks hadn't been saving even though we were not presented with the "10 minutes has elapsed since the first operation…" dialogue.

    I had heard that Apple had rewritten/changed the core code for networking in 10.9, and 10.10, but that doesn't make complete sense, since I hadn't experienced the issue in 10.9 or Vectorworks 2014, and I had thought it was something to do with Yosemite not maintaining a connection to the server. But this week it has surfaced that we have one machine running 10.9.4 experiencing the same issue on 2015 SP1. We have updated that machine to 10.9.5, and are monitoring its progress. I can now confirm, this issue still occurs with the 10.9.5 update.

    We are running are Mac Mini servers running Yosemite with Areca RAID arrays.

    Also I have a number of folders being created in Trash that are showing up after a reboot:

    Trash > Recovered files > (A Document Being Saved By Vectorworks)

    Trash > Recovered files > (A Document Being Saved By Vectorworks 2)

    Trash > Recovered files > (A Document Being Saved By Vectorworks 3) etc.

    I have one other app that is creating these files in Trash (Vitamin R), but as it saves to Dropbox, doesn't have the server save issues.

    I trust this may assist in solving this issue, as we are moving the Office to Yosemite to be compatible with other apps required for rebranding. For the few test machines experiencing this, we can manage for now, but when we have 25 plus people all experiencing the same issue, one can imagine the chaos that ensues!


  12. Everything is obvious once you think of it ;)


    Would the desired behavior be a tracking setting applied via a text style, controlled within its settings, with an override option per-text object in the Object Info Palette just in case?


    Talking to Julian from OzCAD, for him the higher priority in text styles is the ability to be able to override some style attributes. A bit like how you can override some aspects of a class style. Currently if you change any text attribute, it becomes unstyled.

    Maybe the text style needs to have settings that are similar to how the attributes panel works. So that a text object doesn't become unstyled if it is altered, maybe it can have settings that default to the text style, but individually can be overridden without changing the text style.

    Does that make sense?

    PS As I seem to keep going on about this, but obviously the hard part of this is making a text interface that is sensible and intuitive. Ideas are worth jack without good implementation. Thanks again.

  13. Hi Christiaan,

    I would go with the Raid 5 as well as Time Machine (or Chronosync). Yes, you don't get as much storage, but for the time it takes to restore from Time Machine, the RAID 5 setup would pay for itself. Also I would add an offsite backup to the mix. I am sure you know the adage, 'If it is not in three places, it is not backed up".

    We have just moved from an Xserve with external shared drives. We found, that we were not getting anywhere near maxing out the CPU (10-20%), as the traffic was mostly disc read/write and not processor.

    Now we have moved to a Mac Mini Server + multiple enclosure thunderbolt RAID 5 setup. I am no longer fully in the loop with IT, but I believe we have a RAID 5, 4 bay enclosure for our data, partitioned to reflect the previous drive setup. We have a second RAID 5, 4 bay enclosure doing an nightly mirrored backup (only of the previous days work) using Chronosync (not Time Machine). The main drive is also incrementally backed up nightly, to off site cloud backup. Also we have a dual drive mirrored disk for archived projects, that are also backed up to CD/DVD.

    As you can see, we have backups, on backups, on backups. Hopefully this new system prevents some of the challenges we have had with drive failures in the past.

    Hope that helps.

  14. Hi Jim,

    Regarding this, I have been pushing the bounds on this. I have been experimenting with a 3D symbols of a facade containing about 60,000 3D polygons.

    A couple of comments;

    1. The deform tool converts the 3D polygons to class of the symbol, not the classes contained with the symbol or the object. For my multi class facade, I had to split it up class by class, deforming each individually.

    2. Large facades are slow. Any way to have this tool support multi-processors?

    3. Is there a way to have an options dialogue to select the option stated above, or use contained classes, etc?


  15. Hi Jim,

    Looking at the paired back Working Planes palette in 2015. Unless there is some other interface improvement in this area that is going to happen shortly, it looks as if this would be better placed up in the View bar of the Application Window.

    How about placing it next to the 'Active Plane' and 'Look at Working Plane' similar to the Saved Views. Also, maybe it should have it's own tab in the Organisation window.

    If it did have a saved views set of preference settings in the Organisation window, maybe there options to edit the origin and angle of each working plane in relation to the document origin.

    What do you think?


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