Thanks for your replies - sadly I have been working all weekend... I'm after a 6 burner cooker symbol which vectorworks 10.5 doesn't have (as far as I can see). I realised though that the files on the site are in inches so that helped resolved the scale issue. However, can't use any of the cooker symbols which I desperately need, they appear like pin pricks. Will try the scale objects though - have never used that one.