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not correct jim. i know my description was bad. I have 4 classes. A, B, DIM, none. i make symbols out of pairs of A and B classed objects. once i make a symbol, it defaults to none class. then as PAT describes, it acts properly. - i just want a way to double check my classes as i described in my last post....while a symbol.

Pat what you are saying makes perfect sense. to check that i have everything on the right class, i like to cycle through my classes, with active only, and make sure that only certain things are showing up on the right classes. so, this is impossible once i convert everything to a symbol?

if i move my world based symbol from class none to class B, then the B object shows up when on class B. and likewise, if i place the symbol on class A, the A object in the symbol turns on when i activate class A and the B object stays hidden until i switch the class visibilities to all on show/snap/mod others.

that is correct. partially. i did a test. i made 3 pairs of objects. placed 1 of each pair on class A, the other on class B made one pair a symbol with world based settings, one default, the other left as objects only. played with the visibilities. the simple pair that was not a symbol worked fine. the default symbol didn't work at all and when set class visibility to active only, stayed off. the one set as page based symbol, and "layer B" as the active layer when i made it.....i could only see the layer B object (not the layer A) when layer B was the active class. this is messed up! i havent seen these issues.

i have all of my floor plan drawing separated out into various classes. but the problem is that once i turn everything into a symbol, my class visibilities (of the parts in the symbol) no longer work right. i used to be able to turn off/on, grey out, different items as needed. if i convert to group, the visibility functions work right again. i thought that it was working properly and think something may have messed up. i will be importing these symbols in other areas and need to be able to turn off and on, or grey out classes. what gives? thanks

I am working with some simple symbols (we made) that contain text data which are linked to schedules. these are door and window calls. when the file was opened to day, the calls had all defaulted to XXX where the door number goes, and the data within the symbol went completely blank! the weird thing is that the schedules are still populated with the correct data. until i refresh then they all fill with the blank tag data. i understand that the sched. lives separately from the data until refreshed. is there anyway to maybe reverse populate??? maybe somehow direct the schedule to populate the symbols if i re assign the door numbers..or anything? i know this is tough to sort out on your end but has anyone experienced this before? thanks in advance

encountered an issue that I can figure out. it started with my co-workers system a week ago. Now as a test, i opened the same files and began experiencing the same issues. I just open a file (havent pinned down if its a single file yet) and can not save, save as, import, export.....almost every item on the menu lists are greyed out. I cant quit or force quit vector works. even a computer restart is stopped by an error saying that VW is running and canceled restart. normal shut down and restarts have been tried. have not reinstalled VW. COuld it be a corrupt file? ive never experienced this type of issue if so. ANY help would be greatly appreciate the 2 systems are: OSX 10.9.1 (2013 build 208827) and OSX 10.8.5 (169810)

any ideas? could it be a setting in that one computers VWs?

Have rebooted and it doesn't help. - It inverses any placed image (straight into the file, or, within an imported symbol) and only on that one computer. If i open the same file on any other machine, it looks correct.

I have a title block symbol that I import into all of my sheets. In that symbol my seal/stamp is a placed JPG. on one of our computers, that JPG shows up, and prints, with inverted colors. Since this does not happen on all of the computers it leads me to believe that it is a setting specifically on that machine. I should also add that this has not always been the case. up until a couple days ago everything was fine. Any idea? thanks jason

our interior designer will be drawing in 2D tile patterns in the elevations. what is the best way to do this so that the pattern behaves as a hatch or fill? these could be any shape, so what i am hoping for is that as long as we draw a repeatable pattern within an area it should work as a simple fill, or hatch, once we define it as such. adobe illustrator calls it "define pattern" i think. thanks in advance

i am using 2013 fundamentals and i am currently able to import reference files. the problem i am having is that if i move or rotate the ref file, it will reposition itself once the ref file is updated through the organization window. is there a box i need to check that will update the information in the ref file, but leave the move, rotation or position on the page in place.

is it possible to create layers within sheet layers? like a guide layer that would help set up a grid, that could be turned off for printing? thanks!

thanks for all. i agree that we are not using vectorworks to its fullest potential. the idea is that we use it in a way to keep things simple in order to keep things from fouling up. ie: out of control classes, broken links, etc. however, i think my biggest hang up is using classes, and how they can get out of whack. we avoid using BIM, because it seems difficult to detail and control the graphic quality of the drawing. i know it can be done, but in my little experience so far, BIM becomes a hinderance when a window needs to look several different ways depending on the drawing...plan, detail, section, ele.....etc.

currently I am using VW fund 2013. all 2d, no bim or 3d. draw directly on a sheet exactly how i want it to layout and done. what you see is what you get. i am sure it can be streamlined btu everything seems to be working fine. imported symbols and everything organized by simple layer sets. not using classes at all. i might have 5 layers for say, first floor (1-FP, then like 1-ELE, 1-RCP, 1-notes, etc.) then similar for other floors. how could viewports really help me? I am familiar with CAD and how it handles VPs and model/paper space. but since VW does not have model space, and everything is in "paper space", im not quite sure how VPs might work with huge benefits. can someone enlighten me please? thanks