I agree! I consider myself to be pretty bright, yet for all the years I've worked with MC & VW I have yet to truly understand how to create hatches (that is without hacking around and getting lucky). Here's what we need: A hatch creation window in which we CAN DRAW the hatch we want, lines, dots, shapes, shades, whatever. The program should then be able to translate that into a hatch. It would be greater than great!!!