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Ariel

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  1. 'Single file' is inaccurate and can be confusing. I think the more appropriate term would be 'central file' solution. Our office is practically 'Revit-based', and I can not imagine a large project stored in a single file especially if you're talking about multiple buildings. Possible if you really want to but it could potentially cause some stability and memory issues on your hardware as well as coordination problems. We use linked Revit and Autocad files all the time. Forget structural. Have you seen how big a mechanical 3d model looks like? Believe me, you don't want to include that when you share your model with anyone else in the team. Mike, what your linked article discusses is the inability of Revit to share a project beyond the local network and how worksharing works.

  2. Just to clarify why my wall example (technically) can't be done with the new wall tool --- the metal siding is installed above the stone veneer.

    In Revit, there are two ways you can do this. You can either use 'stacked' walls or model the wall and stone veneer separately. In both cases, wall openings are automatically cut. FYI.

  3. Vectorworks is definitely you're best alternative if you don't want to upgrade. (You do know that Revit 2011 is already out, don't you?) Keep in mind that VW objects won't be as intelligent as Revit's and you should be ok. Here are some things to be aware of if you do make the switch:

    - walls need to be drawn in every level/layer to be visible. In revit, a 'tall' wall created in 1st floor plan, shows up in the 2nd floor plan as well. Not so in VW.

    - walls won't automatically attach to roofs.

    - dimension objects won't disappear when you delete the object/s being dimensioned.

    - VW supports dynamic dimensions but it won't be as sophisticated as Revit. You'll miss the ability to distribute objects evenly using the dimension tool in Revit.

    - VW will feel much faster and snappier than Revit

    - Multiple windows aren't allowed. Saved views palette is your friend.

    - You will miss Revit's align tool.

    - If you're looking for intelligent object library resource like Revitcity, I don't think you'll find anything comparable. But then again, most downloads in Revitcity are garbage and poorly created. I think VW even has the advantage because it can import 3d models in a variety of file formats.

    - You will have a better 3d toolset in VW such that custom doors, windows and other objects are much faster and easier to create in VW.

    - Renderworks won't be able to create realistic renders but it would still be a better choice compared to Revit's rendering capabilites.

    - Grid objects don't show up in elevation and section views in VW. You have to draw them manually.

    - Sheet management is where I think VW needs to catch up with Revit. Section and detail callouts will not automatically update when you move your views across different sheets.

    - You have more control in your text objects in VW. You can have multiple styles and fonts in a single text object.

    - Learning the new UI in Revit 2010 or 2011 will probably take you 3 days to a week. Learning VW will probably take 2 weeks. Being productive and comfortable enough will probably take a month or two.

  4. Correct me if I'm wrong; but when you take a 3D section, it is then seperate from the model. surely one of the main pluses of working from a model is that when you make a change, all your views/ viewpoints will show update.

    Why are sections seperate?!!

    Which item are you referring to --- the "Cut 3d Section" or the "Create Section Viewport..." command?

  5. You took the file home, remember? From what I understood, you said you can still do the override as long as you have admin permissions.

    Sorry you've completely lost me. What's the "tricky situation"?

    Ok let me try again. Two people took the file home. Both used their admin permission to override. Who 'wins' when they bring back their updated files to the office?

    In any case, as I said, ArchiCAD does provide such overlay capability with Visual Compare amongst other features. See: http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac11/action/

    You're kidding about Visual Compare, right? It's just a 2d drawing overlay. Uh, I think Autocad already got us beat on that one.

    I don't think ArchiCAD is superior and nor have I said so.

    Yeah right.

  6. You can get into a very tricky situation if Archicad can really do that.

    Care to illuminate us?

    You took the file home, remember? From what I understood, you said you can still do the override as long as you have admin permissions.

    My understanding is that yes, team members can send and receive single elements. I don't know why you would assume this kind of capability could only work in a dumb multi-file collaboration environment. TeamWork, by the way, also provides the capability for team members to add notes and mark up elements in each other's workspace.

    Furthermore, you really don't want to be comparing co-ordination capabilities between ArchiCAD and VW and suggesting VW has the advantage. ArchiCAD absolutely wipes the floor in this regard with a feature called Visual Compare.

    Believe me, I have no intention of questioning Archicad's superiority. With your previous scenario in mind, I was talking about two people intentionally working on copies of the same reference file. Both for example are working on their schemes for a particular layer. What I'm describing is VW's ability to overlay both reference files. This way a team leader would have a better understanding on what changes are going to be made and catch errors before committing. Oftentimes, with a one-file system, a team members don't even realize changes had been made until after the fact.

  7. This is not the case either from my understanding. All you need is admin permissions to override it.

    You can get into a very tricky situation if Archicad can really do that. In Revit, only one person can work on a set at a time, period. If you need to work on a locked portion, you have to wait for someone to release it first. Yes, this can slow down your workflow but makes more sense if you ask me.

    In a WGR workflow someone could take a file away and work on it while someone else merrily works on it as well without realising. Then you potentially have the difficult problem of manually merging changes from separate files.

    I'm not saying that this can't happen but I think if you're going to make changes to a copy of a referenced file you should be smart enough to know the consequences. And with 'cloud computing' increasingly being the buzzword in the tech world, I don't see this scenario worth looking into.

    One advantage of WGR though is you can overlay two or more files to visually compare what the changes/differences are. You can even 'cherry pick' items you want before deleting the obsolete file/s. Can Archicad do that?

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