Jeffe' Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I am having an issue with the muntion part of the window tool. If I enable muntins, the 3d view of the window seems to be "exploded" in that the sashes of the different components (say of a single-hung) are scattered vertically in line with the window. It took me quite a while to figure out that it was the muntins causing this odd display behavior. Any ideas? Or is this a known bug. /BTW: It used to work - think it is the 12.0.1 update. Quote Link to comment
Ramon PG Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Welcome to the club. Try giving the enabled muntings a zero line value in the window edit dialog. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Jeffe' could you elaborate a little more on this topic. What are the settings you are using for the muntins, What are the document units, etc... Thanks, Dave. Quote Link to comment
Jeffe' Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 Just trying to put a single vertical muntin on all parts, top & bottom sashes of a single hung window with a transom. Here is a pic of what happens in the window dialog box - it actually looks like this in the 3d model view as well. I'll try to re-create the problem in another drawing as well and let you know. EDIT: happens in other files as well. [ 03-29-2006, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: Jeffe' ] Quote Link to comment
Jeffe' Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 I doubt it is a hardware compatibility issue. I dont have any other problems, really - runs quite well. The problem does show up on the Windows machine we have running 12.01 as well. I have not tried it on a PPC-based mac. Quote Link to comment
Peter Eichel Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Jeff, try updating your display driver, I had display problems that were corrected by doing this. Quote Link to comment
Kevin Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Jeffe', Can't help but notice that your signature says "Intel Imac". I believe that NNA warned us that VW may not be fully compatible with this hardware. Have you replicated your problem on a pre-Intel machine? Quote Link to comment
Jeffe' Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 iMac's have display drivers? Quote Link to comment
Kevin Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I believe that the display driver is a part of the OS. I had video issues under 10.4.2 which were resolved with 10.4.3. I was told by apple that the video driver had been updated in that OS release. Quote Link to comment
Kevin Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 quote: Originally posted by Jeffe': I doubt it is a hardware compatibility issue. I dont have any other problems, really - runs quite well. The problem does show up on the Windows machine we have running 12.01 as well. I have not tried it on a PPC-based mac. The Knowledgebase article clearly says that your muntin failure is to be expected on the Intel Mac. Are you sure that you are having the same problem on a Windows machine? Quote Link to comment
Jeffe' Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Not an issue, then - I'm on 10.4.6 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Intel macs are having problems with the muntin function in VW since it uses the offset variable. Please review this article for more information: http://kbase.nemetschek.net/index.php?ToDo=view&questId=91&catId=23 Quote Link to comment
Jeffe' Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Huh, wish someone would have pointed that out earlier - I guess the search funtionn didnt pick it up. I could have sworn I saw it on the other machine, too - maybe it screwed up the file? I'll have to check it later. So far, I havent experienced any other glitches - rendering can be very slow sometimes. Open GL is quick with the top of the line graphics card in the iMac. Zoom, pan, rotate functions are quick as there were on the PC. Most of the Industry knew Apple was coming out with the Intel based Macs early. It will be imperative for NNA to get the Universal Binary out ASAP as the next wave of Intel Macs comes out this year. Especially with the ability to not only Dual-Boot to windows, but with the new Virtualization products that will allow windows and OS X to exist simultaneously - and at full power for both. More and more people will be switching from PC's to the Apple HW - no matter what OS they use. /end rant :-) Quote Link to comment
Henry Finch Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I have the same muntin problem on my MAC G5 1.8 dual; sys 10.4.6; VW 12.01. Whenever muntins are added to the window the sash jump up in 3D and there are no muntins. Quote Link to comment
Henry Finch Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Just tried again with a new file created in VW12.0.1. The previous attempt was from my VW11 template. The same problem remains. Also glass door muntins do not show. I need to make a french door. There has to be something I'm missing since this would be a major bug. Henry Mac G5 1.8 dual; OS 10.4.6; VW 12.0.1 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Can someone send me a file that is experiencing this problem? Thanks, Dave dfortin@nemetschek.net Quote Link to comment
slothrop Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Intel macs are having problems with the muntin function in VW since it uses the offset variable. Please review this article for more information: http://kbase.nemetschek.net/index.php?ToDo=view&questId=91&catId=23 That Tech announcement is pretty dire. Any idea of how long it will take to get these things resolved? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted May 3, 2006 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted May 3, 2006 Slothrop, (Love the Pynchon ref) I don't know -- I wouldn't say "dire". Suffice it to say that we're hard at work on a UB version of VectorWorks. Quote Link to comment
slothrop Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Yes, there are far more "dire" situations in the world than our inability to make window muntins in parametric models. Still, I'm glad that my office is not currently relying on VW 3D for our elevation renderings. Keep going! Looking forward to the resolution of all problems! Thanks for the quick reply (and thanks for VW). Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Robert Anderson Posted May 4, 2006 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted May 4, 2006 Slothrop, are you saying that your entire office is based on Intel Macs? Because only Intel Macs will display this issue. Quote Link to comment
Henry Finch Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 This problem affect G5 macs with VW 12.0.0 but is corrected in 12.0.1 Henry Quote Link to comment
slothrop Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Slothrop, are you saying that your entire office is based on Intel Macs? Yes, the core of our drafting machines are Intel-based. Quote Link to comment
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