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Updating my template files and browsing through my workgroup folders....what is the difference between the standards file and template file for everyday use?  I have a template file that I load up for all new projects, but I do recall occasionally needing to pull things in from a standards file.  Can someone explain best practices here?

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You can save all your classes in a .vwx file + put it in the 'Standards' user folder. This means this file will be accessible from the 'New Class' dialog box, allowing you quick + easy access to all your classes. The same applies to design layers + sheet layers but I only really use it for classes. Every time I create a new class I save it to my standards file for future reuse.

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1 minute ago, Kevin Allen said:

I keep my classes in my template.

 

I prefer my templates to have very few classes + let the symbols, PIOs, etc bring in the classes which are relevant to the file in question or bring them in myself from the standards file. Otherwise every file would have hundreds of unnecessary classes in them. You can access the standards file from everywhere (PIO dialogs etc).

 

I don't seem to get any of the VW auto-generated classes. I think because I have a preference turned off somewhere. But that's how I prefer it.

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You can pull in the VW-Auto generated classes by creating a new class in organisation and choosing the relevant file from the list. 

 

Interestingly you can save your own file in this list for pulling in your own classes as and when you need them.

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2 minutes ago, TomWhiteLight said:

Interestingly you can save your own file in this list for pulling in your own classes as and when you need them

Can you explain?  Will this replace VW default Plug In Object Classes with user's classes? 

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4 minutes ago, TomWhiteLight said:

Interestingly you can save your own file in this list for pulling in your own classes as and when you need them.

This is exactly the process I am describing.

 

I found the setting I have turned off, thereby avoiding the annoying auto-generated classes:

 

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I'm with @Kevin Allen. I have a template (Default in the VW Template folder) that has all my standards, including classes. I'm not bothered by unused classes - I can clean those up later with the purge command. The template has drawing sheets and other routine elements. It gets updated frequently, but it saves hours of time.

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7 minutes ago, Tom W. said:

I found the setting I have turned off, thereby avoiding the annoying auto-generated classes:

 

I'll look but pretty sure I do not have this ON. I do have lot's of classes, but I HATE it when I bring in an object or I am training and showing library content and I am bombarded with classes.

 

I loping ago, edited and renamed 'none' and 'dimension' and they update always. Now if I could get rid of the classes that PRG and VER seem to think I need...

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1 minute ago, Kevin Allen said:

I'll look but pretty sure I do not have this ON. I do have lot's of classes, but I HATE it when I bring in an object or I am training and showing library content and I am bombarded with classes.

 

I loping ago, edited and renamed 'none' and 'dimension' and they update always. Now if I could get rid of the classes that PRG and VER seem to think I need...

 

I hate it to too + actually thinking about it the reason why I have so few outside classes is probably less to do with any setting I've got turned off + more to do with the fact I'm using all my own symbols + PIOs + they're set up exactly the way I want them...

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I would be so happy,

if we had a simple XML or Text File for auto-generated Classes

for our Workgroup Folder.

 

What it is currently generating on the left,

enter a Name as it should be on the right

and VW would just use those Class Names and Settings ....

 

Or better a nice GUI Dialog.

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So really the vwx file in the standards folder is just for importing classes? I have them all in my template file so they just get loaded up when I start a new project.  Is there anything else that can be stored in the standards file and then used?  

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14 hours ago, grant_PD said:

So really the vwx file in the standards folder is just for importing classes? I have them all in my template file so they just get loaded up when I start a new project.  Is there anything else that can be stored in the standards file and then used?  

Classes, design layers and sheet layers.

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I'm wondering with the methodology of "Materials", Data Tags, and other smart tools, if having more classes will dimish to where we have less classes. I've used classes to manipulate textures, Sheet VP information, and other features. If more information is not class based, then we can have less classes.

 

But, will that be easier? 

 

I haven't committed to materials yet - still used to classes with assigned textures. 

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