Scaling Section Markers in Viewports

[DuncanR]

Hoping someone can help with this and we're not missing something obvious.

 

When using coordinated section markers on a plan viewport (1:50) we also show these on the section sheet layer adjacent to the associated section viewport in a contextual plan viewport at a smaller scale (e.g. 1:200) - to allow those reading the drawing to easily identify where a section is taken if reading the section drawing in isolation.

Our issue is that the scale of the section markers on the 1:200 scale context viewport appears to be a universal setting across all instances of the marker that are associated with that particular section viewport, meaning they show as either impractically large on the context plan (as shown below) or too small on the main plan if scaled to suit the context plan.

 

Trying to scale markers/symbols etc. in the Advanced Properties for the viewport doesn't appear to affect them and if we change the scale factor for the marker in the annotation layer of one viewport it affects the markers in all other viewports.

Is there a way to individually scale these markers for legibility?

 

We are currently working off VW 2022 SP1.1 - While we are aware that SP2.1 is the latest version, there is a known issue with wall hole components of symbols attached to walls that is yet to be fixed.

[Matt Panzer]

3 hours ago, DuncanR said:

Hoping someone can help with this and we're not missing something obvious.

 

When using coordinated section markers on a plan viewport (1:50) we also show these on the section sheet layer adjacent to the associated section viewport in a contextual plan viewport at a smaller scale (e.g. 1:200) - to allow those reading the drawing to easily identify where a section is taken if reading the section drawing in isolation.

Our issue is that the scale of the section markers on the 1:200 scale context viewport appears to be a universal setting across all instances of the marker that are associated with that particular section viewport, meaning they show as either impractically large on the context plan (as shown below) or too small on the main plan if scaled to suit the context plan.

 

Trying to scale markers/symbols etc. in the Advanced Properties for the viewport doesn't appear to affect them and if we change the scale factor for the marker in the annotation layer of one viewport it affects the markers in all other viewports.

Is there a way to individually scale these markers for legibility?

 

We are currently working off VW 2022 SP1.1 - While we are aware that SP2.1 is the latest version, there is a known issue with wall hole components of symbols attached to walls that is yet to be fixed.

 

I think the best way to handle this is to Cut and Paste in Place the Section Line which will convert it into an independent section line (no longer defines the viewport).  You can still keep it linked to the viewport (for auto document coordination) via the Object Info palette but you can change the object freely (including its style, shape, etc) without altering the viewport or the section lines defining the viewport.  Of course, this also means that it will no longer move along with the defining section line objects if they're changed.

[DuncanR]

6 minutes ago, Matt Panzer said:

 

I think the best way to handle this is to Cut and Paste in Place the Section Line which will convert it into an independent section line (no longer defines the viewport).  You can still keep it linked to the viewport (for auto document coordination) via the Object Info palette but you can change the object freely (including its style, shape, etc) without altering the viewport or the section lines defining the viewport.  Of course, this also means that it will no longer move along with the defining section line objects if they're changed.

 

Thanks Matt - Not an ideal solution - almost as well doing just a stand-alone annotation. 

 

With the every increasing number of elements that can be set/controlled via styles (data tags etc.) I'd think adding the ability to scale styled markers within the viewport advanced properties is something Vectorworks should look at including in a future release. Even tying them to one of the existing scaling options (markers or symbols) would be a step in the right direction.

[Matt Panzer]

3 minutes ago, DuncanR said:

 

Thanks Matt - Not an ideal solution - almost as well doing just a stand-alone annotation. 

 

With the every increasing number of elements that can be set/controlled via styles (data tags etc.) I'd think adding the ability to scale styled markers within the viewport advanced properties is something Vectorworks should look at including in a future release. Even tying them to one of the existing scaling options (markers or symbols) would be a step in the right direction.

 

I agree it's not an ideal solution but it's something that can be done now.

A also agree that a better solution is needed.