LarryAZ Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I seem to send a large percentage of my time drawing the framing section. I do a 3D section of the house then ungroup and erase lines for hours on the design layer. Make a view port to the framing sheet and draw annotation until I have a drawing. It seems like the most crude thing I do with VW. Does anyone have a better way to create this required sheet that is more efficient? Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment
Don Samuelson Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Hi Larry, After you've created your 3D section, go to the tools menu and select "convert copy to lines". Choose the "hidden line rendering" option. You're left with a group that should have most of your duplicate lines already removed! Cheers, Don PowerMac G4 dual 500, OSX 10.3.8, VW11.5 Quote Link to comment
LarryAZ Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Don - the convert copy to lines is definite improvment. The erasing is much easier now. I wish all the lines over the round windows and archways were deleted with the hidden line. Now do you do the rest of your drawing on the design layer with a vew port to your sheet layer? It looks like that would be the correct procedure rather than annotating the view port. Chris - I'm only learning but what I would like is to get a section that looks real. Something without all the crazy lines everywhere that hidden line doesn't remove. I'm not sure how DL would work but I'll be happy to learn it. Thank you both for the help. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 FWIW, I always enjoy the (tedious) task of drawing building sections as it is only then that I begin to learn what I need to know (and communicate to the builder) about the complications, both major and minor, that are present in even the simplest of structures. A teacher-friend has often told me, "You can never draw too many sections". :-) Quote Link to comment
Travis Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Peter, Having been a framer, that may be the wisest thing I've ever heard from someone on the other "side" of the blueprint. I'm reluctant to even share how much detail I put into sections. . .you guys would all think I'm nuts! ('course, you'd have to get in line) Quote Link to comment
LarryAZ Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Travis, I would like to see one of your section details. Would you be willing to do a screen capture and show me one? I find this is the most time consuming area of a set of plans and one I need to learn more about. Also do you use the "convert copy to lines" command and then draw your section details on that line object, on the section design layer? Then put it on a section sheet via a veiw port? Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I find that it is only on the detailed sections that I can work out the details of the construction, so I use the Cut 3D Section to generate the line drawing of the sections, then I use details from my library if they are suitable, or I use detail components such as timber, flashings, gutters, etc. Here is the section where most of the work takes place: From this section I can generate the details on the foundation sheet: and here is one of the details.... I think that this is powerful... and quick... Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 my Manuals show you how to set up drawings this way... Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Hey Jonathan, those look great. FWIW, mine are quite similar but I go a little further in that I use shading wherever appropriate (eg: my concrete hatch has a gray background). I find it helps a lot to enhance the graphics if there are distinct shading differences... :-) Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 yes, that?s true, and that?s why we can all have sight graphic differences so that we don?t all look the same... of course we could sketch the details... Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I dunno Jonathan. I'd be afraid that some builder would take it literally (LOL). Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 i thought that was how they built anyway... ;-) Quote Link to comment
Travis Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Now, be careful. If I wasn't wearing steel-toed boots, I might notice you're stepping on them! Once a hammer-swinger, always one. Great detailing, Jonathan. Even a half-decent attempt at humor. . . All the best, Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Jees, That IS how they build in the UK...! We may as well draw with crayons on toilet paper! Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Try the opposite side of the world - New Zealand. They are very English like, but we won't hold that against them! [ 03-13-2005, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: mike m oz ] Quote Link to comment
islandmon Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 May I suggest a 'Force Path' structural connection between the wall and the foundation . And perhaps a Termite shield at the base 'double' plate : ) Quote Link to comment
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