Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Good Morning, Every time I try to input a CADD DWG file Vectorworks gets to 72% and then shuts down the program. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Olivia-OBryan said: What am I doing wrong? Posting a question without enough information to generate helpful suggestions 🙂 I would recommend you post the DWG file and describe what settings you have used to try to import it into Vectorworks. Then, maybe someone will be able to help you. Quote Link to comment
Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 LENXR1.dwg Quote Link to comment
Jeff Prince Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 What is supposedly in that DWG and it's purpose? 7MB is a pretty big DWG. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 @Olivia-OBryan I'm not sure why it didn't import. I was able to import it w/o a problem. I'll post the vwx file here. If you want we could investigate it further. What version of VW are you using?, What kind of computer, etc. ImportedDWG.vwx Quote Link to comment
Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 It is the first floor, floor plan of the house we are working on. I am trying to take files given to us by our Architects, and use them in Vectorworks. I know they are going to be 3D,. Quote Link to comment
Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 We are using Vectorworks Architect 2022. Quote Link to comment
Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Sorry I hit send to quickly, the computer I am using is a Lennox Think pad. I have attached a snip-it of the computer systems. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Olivia-OBryan said: We are using Vectorworks Architect 2022. I'm also using 2022. I'm not an expert on Windows computers, but if I'm reading this correctly, I don't think your computer is the problem. There's no 3D anything on this file. Not even a texture. Two thoughts: 1. Some of the polylines with really heavy line weights are displaying in a funny way I don't think I've seen before. Don't know what it means. If you knock the super heavy line weights down to something reasonable they display just fine. 2. There was a long list of fonts that I didn't have on my computer that needed to be substituted. I let it use Ariel for everything. Maybe you're mapping to a corrupted font on your computer? That's a long shot. Quote Link to comment
Olivia-OBryan Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Thank you. I will look at it. Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The DWG looks ok in Bricscad. But seems very demanding and slow on M1 Mac Mini. I also tried the VW import from @MichaelK It contains some Tree Symbols with pretty busy 2D geometry part. But I see it flies in VW Viewport on my Windows machine. Specs in signature. Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 There is at least one issue with the dwg file, it is referencing to itself twice With the bind external references it will import 900k+ objects, with ignore external references it will import 475k and something and at first overall glance both imports look the same. Both imports hang a little while around the 80-88% mark but complete the import. The 2nd import is faster than the 1st import though. What happens if you import with the ignore external references selected instead of binding external references? Another possible issue is with the dependencies, Vectorworks might be ignoring those but BricsCAD becomes "not responding" when trying to list them in the drawing explorer. All of us who have replied so far are at least on VW2021 and those of us who could import the dwg are all on VW2022. VW2022 has apparently better dwg/dxf import than VW2020 so it could be that there is something in the file that causes VW2020 to not complete the import and/or crash where VW2022 will continue. 2 Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 @Art V Great catch. I don't see any way to figure that out during the VW import. How would you fix it? Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 19 hours ago, michaelk said: @Art V Great catch. I don't see any way to figure that out during the VW import. How would you fix it? You would need either a DWG based CAD program to view, and fix if necessary, these things or a viewer that can do the same. I doubt that VW would recognize a self-referencing dwg file upon import. Regarding the depencies, it could be anything from fonts to textures, (missing) external references etc. and with 400k+ objects it will take time to find out what object(s) might be causing the issue. Generally speaking any non-readable (or corrupted) data should simply be skipped on import and a message should be shown that data/objects were skipped on import because it couldn't be read/interpreted, without crashing the program. VW does tell things didn't get imported but that is usually non-compatible things or missing references etc. If it crashes VW but opens apparently ok in a DWG viewer/CAD program then it is most likely that some geometry or data is at fault and then having a DWG based program would be handy to have to be able to dive into the file and fix it. It is too bad that there is no longer a free version of Draftsight as that might have been a suitable option to have alongside VW. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, Art V said: You would need either a DWG based CAD program to view, and fix if necessary, these things or a viewer that can do the same. I doubt that VW would recognize a self-referencing dwg file upon import. That makes sense. There is an online viewer that's a bit of a pain to use. That may have been able to deal with references. There is also a lightweight .dwg viewer for Mac called - unbelievably - MiniCad. But I don't think it will manage references. Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 10:51 PM, Art V said: There is at least one issue with the dwg file, it is referencing to itself twice Tried to get rid of it but my Bricscad crashed ... 1 Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 21 hours ago, zoomer said: Tried to get rid of it but my Bricscad crashed ... Doesn't crashing imply that it is lost so that in essence you did get rid of it? 😁 1 Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 @zoomerRemoving the self-referenced xref worked just fine on my measly Windows laptop. Did you try it on your Mac or on your Linux machine? Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 @Olivia-OBryan Attached is your uploaded dwg file with the self-referenced dwg xref removed and the drawing file audited (169 errors fixed). It is now also possible to look at the dependencies without freezing BricsCAD so it was probably some corrupted data inside the DWG file that may have been causing issues during import in VW2020. Could you try importing this file to see if it works now? LENXR1 (audited).dwg Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 11:47 PM, michaelk said: @Art V Great catch. I don't see any way to figure that out during the VW import. How would you fix it? Didn't get to it last time but this time I did an audit with fixing errors in the drawing and that solved the dependencies viewing issue. This basically requires having a DWG based CAD program because VW cannot do this upon import as far as I am aware. ODA (Open Design Alliance) has a viewer and converter on their website for Win/Mac/Linux, if I recall correctly the converter can do an audit to fix issues when converting to a different dwg version (or even the same dwg version). https://www.opendesign.com/ @Olivia-OBryan maybe this ODA viewer and/or converter might be an option to install on your machine to view/fix DWG files if they cause issues upon importing in VW2020. Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Art V said: @zoomerRemoving the self-referenced xref worked just fine on my measly Windows laptop. Did you try it on your Mac or on your Linux machine? Mac of course 🙂 I even only downloaded and looked at the DWG as found the self reference interesting. And to make it more interesting I use a) a M1 Mac and b) under newest OS Monterey 🙂 Will load your cleaned file and examine, Also retry the original reference detach thing under Windows. BTW V22 doesn't even feel as stable on Windows as I was used too. Edited November 3, 2021 by zoomer Quote Link to comment
Art V Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, zoomer said: BTW V22 does't even feels as stable on Windows as I was used too. So far I'm not noticing much difference compared to V21 when it comes to stability. Are you perhaps using add-on applications? Sometimes those can cause some stability issues with BC by itself or conflict with another add-on application and then cause stability issues. Or it could be something from other installed software/OS updates that is causing a glitch. Refreshing the OS install may get rid of some of those things causing problems. I know it did solve some issues in the past on my Windows machine, including issues with VW This might be worth trying if you have done update over update over update on the OS and/or software. Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) No Add-ons but maybe there are still some hidden problems with latest AMD GPU drivers. And it has to do with my crappy client IFC or RVT imports. When doing DMSIMPLIFYALL or DMAUDITALL, before a regular AUDIT. Which most times would delete about 30% of the crappy geometry in advance 🙂 BTW, currently BC is occupied for an hour to have run through about 50% of a 2D DWG (exported from a client VWX) for an OPTIMIZE test. Which is one of the coolest features (personal opinion) I have ever seen. Didn't realize that existed already in V21. Have you seen the V22. Point Cloud Tools presentation Videos ? 🙂 Edited November 3, 2021 by zoomer Quote Link to comment
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