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Can I reference OIP data in a Record Format field?


wclights

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Hi all,

 

I am trying to improve my workflow with my line sets and I am wondering if it is possible to connect OIP data like Position Name and Z value to a custom made Record Format. Basically I am trying to eventually improve my line set schedule work flow, and I thought Record Formats might be the key, but I don't want to have to update the data in the OIP and a separate Record Format. Since a lot of the Record Format data should match what's in the OIP I was hoping there might be some way to reference it similar to referencing another cell in Excel. Or am I going down the completely wrong rabbit hole? Thanks for any help in advance!

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Maybe data tags are what I want then, I haven't used them before. An example of the ideal functionality for me is I am making a line set schedule and I want that to have the trim height of the batten which in my drawing is the Z coordinate of the pipe symbol. In this example I want the record to reference the Z coordinate so that if I change the Z coordinate of the pipe it updates the line set schedule.

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If you just want your schedule to show the z height of your symbol then just have a data base column header in your worksheet with =ZCoordinate in it. This will call up the z value of the insertion point of your symbols. You don't need to create a record for that.

 

You would use a data tag if you wanted to show the z value of your symbols on your drawing in the form of a tag rather than in a schedule. 

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AutoPlot has a simpler, less powerful, lineset tool that would probably work for you, but the real question is: what is the workflow you would like to achieve when you work with linesets.  I'm a collector of VW live entertainment workflows, and I would very much like hear about yours and how you want to improve it.

 

Sam

Samuel L. Jones
Developer of AutoPlot Tools for SpotLight, and AP Cable Tools
E-mail: sjones@autoplotvw.com
(310) 993-4172 (cell)
 

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On 10/29/2021 at 6:53 PM, Sam Jones said:

AutoPlot has a simpler, less powerful, lineset tool that would probably work for you, but the real question is: what is the workflow you would like to achieve when you work with linesets.  I'm a collector of VW live entertainment workflows, and I would very much like hear about yours and how you want to improve it.

 

Sam

Samuel L. Jones
Developer of AutoPlot Tools for SpotLight, and AP Cable Tools
E-mail: sjones@autoplotvw.com
(310) 993-4172 (cell)
 

Hi Sam,

 

Sorry to get back to you a year later. Data Tags look to be the answer to my particular quest. To answer your question: I have my own personal line set schedule for my light plots that I designed and enjoy the look of very much. It's nothing fancy, but it's mine. The problem was while having it as a symbol I could drop in to any drawing was handy, any time I wanted to edit the info I had to jump into the symbol and edit the text fields in there. I had all the text fields linked to record formats so once I was in the symbol it was easy enough, but I wondered if there was a way to automate the data like trim height and "to plaster line" since I draw my plaster/center/stage floor on 0/0/0. Nowadays I usually work in the same handful of theatres so rather than use a symbol I can just make base files with individual line set schedules designed for each space and now I know I can use data tags instead of record formats to make the info auto populate for me.

 

- Will

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6 hours ago, wclights said:

Nowadays I usually work in the same handful of theatres so rather than use a symbol I can just make base files with individual line set schedules designed for each space and now I know I can use data tags instead of record formats to make the info auto populate for me.

 

I'm not quite following a few things.  Are your line set schedules no longer symbol based?  What displays the information on the plot?  As I understand it, data tags work with record formats not used instead of record formats.  What record formats are your data tags displaying?  If they are not displaying record field information, what are they displaying?  I understand how data tags can automatically display changes to records attached to objects, but how are you getting them to auto populate anything and what is that anything that is being auto populated?  I have my own command that will layout user defined symbols the correct distance from the plaster line and fill in the line number, distance, label, trim, and category all based on a worksheet, but I am very curious about what you are doing with data tags.

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