hollister design Studio Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Two things. 1. Please put 'show contour labels' on the OIP. 2. Please allow visibility control by class. Notes: I want Contour Labels to be visible is some viewports and not in other . I went to Site Model Settings/Graphic properties/2D contour Labels. I created a new class called 'Site-2D contour Labels. I checked 'show contour labels'. Turning 'Site-2D contour Labels' class on and off in a design layer has no effect on visibility. Turning 'site-2D contour labels' on or off or grey in my classes menu for viewports has no effect on visability 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tony Kostreski Posted April 7, 2021 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 7, 2021 Hey @hollister design Studio, I just did the same test and it works on my end. Did you set the class to "use at creation" and in the site model settings all attributes are "set by class"? Here is a sample fileSite Model-contours off.vwx Turn the visibility of class "contour labels" off. Let me know if you get it working. Best, Tony Quote Link to comment
0 hollister design Studio Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Tony Kostreski said: ...and in the site model settings all attributes are "set by class"... Thanks Tony - that was it! Really buried down in there isn't it... Label visibility is a basic feature of a contour map and should be a very quick on/off while working. Setting up a class for labels is great (and I'm so thankful for you showing me how) but if that's going to be 'best practice' than I shouldn't have to dig so deep to enable it. It should be right in the site model "2d display" settings tab - along with the setting for major or major and minor contours. And I would still like to see it in the OIP! 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tony Kostreski Posted April 8, 2021 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, hollister design Studio said: Label visibility is a basic feature of a contour map and should be a very quick on/off while working. Setting up a class for labels is great (and I'm so thankful for you showing me how) but if that's going to be 'best practice' than I shouldn't have to dig so deep to enable it. It should be right in the site model "2d display" settings tab - along with the setting for major or major and minor contours. And I would still like to see it in the OIP! I agree it should be easier to get to this point. Make sure to "Save Site Model Settings" so you're really only setting up how Site Models are created once. You can save this to your template so that it automatically creates those classes. You can even save multiple different Site Model settings depending on what's required for the project. I think adding a button to the OIP is a nice wish — I'll submit a Vectorworks Enhancement. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Popular Post ericjhberg Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 5:25 PM, Tony Kostreski said: You can save this to your template so that it automatically creates those classes. And yes, while this is a great place to store your visibility settings, we have learned that applying the settings will NOT inherently create any missing classes pre-defined in your settings that are not currently in the active file. Instead, those classes have to be created or imported from a template file either before or after applying the saved settings to the Site Model. I wish they automatically stored the classes and imported them with saved settings once the saved setting is applied. And also...to be clear, there are two settings to save within the Site Model object...there are the 'Site Model - Settings available from the main Site Model Settings dialog box and the Graphic Properties...Settings available from the Graphic Properties sub-dialog box. We don't manage saved settings through the first Site Model Settings because those settings apply similar Maximum, Minimum, Datum, Contour Interval, Contour Multiplier, etc. settings to all site models, despite the fact that those parameters change widely across different projects. Rather, we use the Graphic Properties sub-dialog box Saved Settings to control visibilities of site models based on specific class assignments/visibilities, but we have to remember to import specific classes from our template files before applying the saved settings to get the desired result. Another question/idea. Is there a location to store these saved settings in a Workgroup library for office wide sharing? I haven't found this location yet, and rely on manually saving the same settings on each machine in our office for universal collaboration, but a workgroup library location would be awesome. Lastly, regarding Contours, contour labeling as a whole needs to get much better. Contour labels should be allowed to be set independent of document units. That way I can set my contour labels to be in Feet with 0 decimal places, and read appropriately while staying in Feet and Inches for my document units, which is typical for the work we do. Without this, my contours ready 406'-0", which is just plain terrible. This functionality is already available with Stake Objects...just use it for Site Models (and Site Modifiers, Grade Objects, any other site modeling tool). Contour label positions automatically set by the site model are often in terrible locations with way too many instances. To make things worse, if you go through the process of updating the site model...even once...the manually set contour label locations revert to their original, terrible locations. Pointless. It is easier, but potentially error prone, to just manually place text contour labels on a finished site model than to use them from the plug-in. Fix this! 8 Quote Link to comment
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Two things.
1. Please put 'show contour labels' on the OIP.
2. Please allow visibility control by class.
Notes:
I want Contour Labels to be visible is some viewports and not in other .
Turning 'Site-2D contour Labels' class on and off in a design layer has no effect on visibility.
Turning 'site-2D contour labels' on or off or grey in my classes menu for viewports has no effect on visability
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