DSmith2300 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I am once again asking about the resize tool. This is the most awful, useless thing since the invention of square wheels. All I want to do is select an object or several objects or a group, and scale proportionally in simple, logical fashion. I want to be able to just grab the tool and do it on the fly. I don't want to have to go into a sub-menu and then carefully jump through several button clicks to do it either if I don't need that precision. Just grab it by corner or side handle, Scale (holding SHIFT to ensure that everything in the selection stays exactly proportional unless I want it loose), Bam! Done. Next. Trying to use it honestly makes me want to throw my computer across the room. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it work. Quote Link to comment
0 Pat Stanford Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Have you tried the third mode of the Selection Tool? The Unrestricted Interactive Scaling Mode? It lets you scale multiple objects at the same time. It does not meet all of your requests, but it comes fairly close. Quote Link to comment
0 DSmith2300 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Thanks Pat. It still does really weird things to groups or multiple selections. Like decide to throw one object far away from the others. Utterly bizarre. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Pat Stanford Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Group, resize, ungroup? Quote Link to comment
0 DSmith2300 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Same problem. Grouped or ungrouped. Baffling. Quote Link to comment
0 Peter Vandewalle Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I think Pat is handing the best solutions. If your case doesn't act as expected, we need to see the actual drawing and selection you're using. Maybe we can find why it's not acting as you'd expect. Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 That third mode of the selection tool - I never fully understand what it is supposed to do either. It's not consistent. See below for example. Sometimes it'll scale objects together and sometimes it won't (in which case I have to group them as per end of video) Screen Recording 2021-03-04 at 09.42.27.mov 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Pat Stanford Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I had not noticed that "functionality" before. It appears that multiple selected objects that are horizontal/vertical are scaled together in Unrestricted Interactive Scaling while rotated objects (even with the same rotation) are scaled individually even if multiple objects are selected. I am not sure if this is by design or is a bug. I will see what I can find out. If you have time, it would be great if you could put a post in the Wishlist Forum describing how you think the Unrestriced Interactive Scaling mode should work. As much detail (including screen shots or movies if possible) would help in trying to get this on the radar for improvement. Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 As someone who feels like I have a pretty great grasp on Vectorworks, I've never really understood the third mode of the Selection tool. Like the original poster I've found it to be unpredictable and therefore unusable. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Boh Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I agree that I've also been somewhat confused by this mode. So only unrotated objects can be scaled together? It almost makes this mode a bit useless. Grouping objects treats them like one object in which case the single object interactive scaling mode works. 3 Quote Link to comment
0 DSmith2300 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Actually Boh, I think you've just solved it for me. I hadn't played with those functions, so the 'single' mode is fine enough for a group. Still seems unnecessarily complicated. The one tool should just do all this without having to go up to the corner and switch modes. Anyway, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Boh Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, DSmith2300 said: The one tool should just do all this without having to go up to the corner and switch modes. You can use the U, I, O & P keys to quickly toggle between modes instead. Quote Link to comment
0 Popular Post DSmith2300 Posted March 5, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 I've changed my mind again, sorry. I just tried to use that 'under fire' and it totally failed. Circles + text ----> Grouped---> grab corner and scale... nope. circles ended up halfway across the screen and text stayed where it was and still as small. Useless. Text should scale just as much as an object, and everything should scale up in proportion and in relative position with everything else selected. Why is this such a difficult concept for VW to get? These things on screen are just THINGS. Not sacred treaties to be individually negotiated according to specific cultural sensitivities. Me: "Hey scale this stuff please when I drag out a corner of the box surrounding the things" Adobe Illustrator (or ACAD): "Sure. Done." VW: "Oh. Well... it's complicated. You see; green circles like to do this on a Tuesday but not on a Friday. Purple circles won't scale f you've eaten bacon for lunch but are fine with ham sandwiches for dinner. Polylines will only scale if not rotated counter clockwise. A square is not just a closed poly line, it's a whole separate species so it will scale but will jump across the screen out of sight and away from the group which you just carefully arranged. Text won't do anything because it only believes in obscure conspiracy theories and won't leave the house. Symbols refuse to speak to anyone except their therapist." 3 2 Quote Link to comment
0 line-weight Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Things jumping around is not a problem I'm able to reproduce, nor one that I recall noticing as an issue with resizing at any point. So I wonder why that's happening for you. Text not resizing I can kind of forgive... but mainly just because I don't usually use text in design layers and generally don't want it to resize. In the "scale objects" menu command there's a tick-box that allows you to decide whether text scales or not, but no such option for the resize tool, which does seem inconsistent. Quote Link to comment
0 Evan C. Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I am having the same issue. Very frustrating. A simple existing tree group (canopy circle, trunk circle) just ends up elsewhere. Any more insight? Quote Link to comment
0 DSmith2300 Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just tried it again. Things seem to keep their relative position to each other now, including text. Thank goodness. I'm not worried about the text staying the same size now. Quote Link to comment
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DSmith2300
I am once again asking about the resize tool.
This is the most awful, useless thing since the invention of square wheels.
All I want to do is select an object or several objects or a group, and scale proportionally in simple, logical fashion.
I want to be able to just grab the tool and do it on the fly.
I don't want to have to go into a sub-menu and then carefully jump through several button clicks to do it either if I don't need that precision.
Just grab it by corner or side handle,
Scale (holding SHIFT to ensure that everything in the selection stays exactly proportional unless I want it loose),
Bam!
Done.
Next.
Trying to use it honestly makes me want to throw my computer across the room.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it work.
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