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21 hours ago, Daisy Y said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff I want to use a leg on my cabinets that isn't in the standard library of parts that came with the software. How do I go about adding this? The leg is a Hafele part that comes as a foot shaft and foot plug top.

Links to the parts here: 

https://www.hafele.ie/en/product/plinth-foot-top-section-m10-screw-through-mounting/000000fb0003ab5f00020023/

https://www.hafele.ie/en/product/foot-and-shaft-section-for-adjustable-plinth-feet-plastic/63796331/?MasterSKU=0000001c0001b63f00020023

 

Will I need to model something up myself to represent these and then add that as a part in my part library? Or is there a place to download this product and upload it into my library?

 

 

Hi Daisy, it's easily possible with interiorcad's built-in "Edit / Adapt Fitting Libraries" command. Go to interiorcad and then Fittings:

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From the next dialog, you choose feet and mounting plates (and, if required, accessories and / or glides). 

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When you choose each command for the first time, interiorcad will create a new document with a sample fitting. When you save it, it will be placed in your user folder ( /Users/<your user name>/Library/Application Support/Vectorworks/2021/Libraries/Defaults/Custom Part/Leg Feet/Leg Feet - Custom.vwx) or, if you're on Windows in C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\Nemetschek\Vectorworks\2021\Libraries\Defaults\Custom Part\Leg Feet\Leg Feet - Custom.vwx (or Leg Mounting Plates). Edit the sample fitting geometry and replace the sample geometry with your own geometry. Add drillings if required. make sure you don't ungroup anything. Work inside the groups because there are Vectorworks Record Formats attached to the enclosing groups. If you do it like that you'll be fine. If it does not work, which is to be expected, because it never works the first time around, 😁 , upload what you tried here (the documents from your user folder) and I will have a look.

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@Stephan Moenninghoff Thank you for the previous reply! I'm having another issue, I'm saving symbols within symbols (ie. the symbol of a drawer type within the symbol of a full cabinet) and when I close my program and reopen the file it has converted the symbols (drawers) within the main symbol (cabinet) into a group and so lost its symbol nature and ability to edit symbol capabilities. I'm also getting this error message when opening the file, " Some object connections are broken in the current document" , asking me to repair items. I'm not sure why this message is appearing or if it's anything to do with my symbol-within-symbol issue.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Daisy Y said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff Thank you for the previous reply! I'm having another issue, I'm saving symbols within symbols (ie. the symbol of a drawer type within the symbol of a full cabinet) and when I close my program and reopen the file it has converted the symbols (drawers) within the main symbol (cabinet) into a group and so lost its symbol nature and ability to edit symbol capabilities. I'm also getting this error message when opening the file, " Some object connections are broken in the current document" , asking me to repair items. I'm not sure why this message is appearing or if it's anything to do with my symbol-within-symbol issue.

 

 

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That's interesting. I don't think converting drawers into symbols is a good idea, they need to live inside the main symbol as groups/plugin objects. You can attach the file here if you like and I will have someone take a look.

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Oh they weren't interiorcad drawers they're custom drawers I have just made from Custom Parts and shapes as I only wanted certain parts to export in the NC export as we will be cutting certain parts on the saw for our dovetail joined drawers and others were employing Hafele TandemBox drawer sides and so we only needed a base and back panel. 

I've attached the file. In it you'll see a collection of cabinets, I was working in the 'Shark 1200 3 drawer' and the  'Shark 1200 2 drawer' when I mainly noticed the problem but I think it happens to all of the symbols. 

Cabinet 3D Library.vwx

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1 hour ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

That's interesting. I don't think converting drawers into symbols is a good idea, they need to live inside the main symbol as groups/plugin objects. You can attach the file here if you like and I will have someone take a look.

Oh they weren't interiorcad drawers they're custom drawers I have just made from Custom Parts and shapes as I only wanted certain parts to export in the NC export as we will be cutting certain parts on the saw for our dovetail joined drawers and others were employing Hafele TandemBox drawer sides and so we only needed a base and back panel. 

I've attached the file. In it you'll see a collection of cabinets, I was working in the 'Shark 1200 3 drawer' and the  'Shark 1200 2 drawer' when I mainly noticed the problem but I think it happens to all of the symbols. 

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Cabinet 3D Library.vwx

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Is there a way of creating new frame styles for the fronts of cabinet doors? At the moment I am using a standard door and then drawing a custom part 6mm plant on but it isn't parametric so I have to redraw the frame for each different size cabinet? I've attached one example of the style of frame I am wanting to apply to the front of my cabinets. The divisions of the small horizontals would change with taller units to divide equally along the door height. 

 

 

Also is there a way around the fact you can't seem to edit a door of a cabinet without deleting the shelves/division first to edit the door and then re-adding the division back in?

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Daisy Y said:

Is there a way of creating new frame styles for the fronts of cabinet doors? At the moment I am using a standard door and then drawing a custom part 6mm plant on but it isn't parametric so I have to redraw the frame for each different size cabinet? I've attached one example of the style of frame I am wanting to apply to the front of my cabinets. The divisions of the small horizontals would change with taller units to divide equally along the door height. 

 

In short: make a cabinet door and then in the dialog change the door from "Plain" to "Frame". (That is new of interiorcad 2021.)

 

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Also is there a way around the fact you can't seem to edit a door of a cabinet without deleting the shelves/division first to edit the door and then re-adding the division back in?

 

Again, here too, in short: in the dialog, tab "Division", select one box, then click the symbol with the arrow for expanding the selection, until you have the right selection for the door you want to change.

 

Check the documentation at: https://conf.extragroup.de/display/IM/Division+Tab if you need more information to were that symbol for expanding the selection is.

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36 minutes ago, Nicolas Goutte said:

 

In short: make a cabinet door and then in the dialog change the door from "Plain" to "Frame". (That is new of interiorcad 2021.)

 

 

Again, here too, in short: in the dialog, tab "Division", select one box, then click the symbol with the arrow for expanding the selection, until you have the right selection for the door you want to change.

Thanks Nicolas! The first point helps a little, it lets me edit the frame that goes round the outside but it doesn't allow me to create a detail style of door I can apply to different units (ie, with mini sub rails that divide up the door creating a sort of grid look over the door). Perhaps this isn't a possible feature available yet?

 

Point 2 - you are a lifesaver this is amazing thank you!

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@Daisy Y I have just finished a 11-part tutorial to get you up to speed with exactly how these things are done. It will soon appear on a screen near you. Stay tuned until mid-March for more news on this.

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2 hours ago, Daisy Y said:

Thanks Nicolas! The first point helps a little, it lets me edit the frame that goes round the outside but it doesn't allow me to create a detail style of door I can apply to different units (ie, with mini sub rails that divide up the door creating a sort of grid look over the door). Perhaps this isn't a possible feature available yet?

Can you show us what you have in mind? Maybe we can integrate it or maybe you can already do it. 

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21 hours ago, Nicolas Goutte said:
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Also is there a way around the fact you can't seem to edit a door of a cabinet without deleting the shelves/division first to edit the door and then re-adding the division back in?

 

Again, here too, in short: in the dialog, tab "Division", select one box, then click the symbol with the arrow for expanding the selection, until you have the right selection for the door you want to change.

You can do this even faster by holding the alt key down while clicking the desired box.

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