LeeElston Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I have seen a few posts referring to being able to set the number of winders in the stair tool, but on the geometry settings of the L stair winder configuration I can't see any way to set this... I am trying to create a stair with 2 risers on the wind, but the tool insists on putting in 3... I enclose some sketches, the stair on the right is a simple exterusion model of what I am trying to create, and on the left is the closest I can get with the stair tool... Any pointers on how to draw what I want? If not, perhaps something for the wishlist... Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Stair Tool will not do it as the Walk Line, or the distances between treads vary that way. Which is quite a dangerous Stair. But maybe you can force that in any way when you set an Offset for the walk line. But I am not sure if it will work as there seams to be a limitation in the Tool that a Stair or Stair Flight will always need to have at least 3 Treads. Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Last I recall, Residential Building Code requires 6" minimum tread depth. You may need to do the stair sections separately. Quote Link to comment
Tom W. Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Is Custom Stair an option? Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Tom, Vectorworks has (3) Stair Tools. I believe the one that shows in the Building Shell is Custom. I am not sure as it has been awhile since I added the other (2) You are able to get the other (2) from legacy folder when adding tools to a Tool Menu. See link http://app-help.vectorworks.net/2018/eng/VW2018_Guide/Start/Modifying_Tool_Palettes_and_Tool_Sets.htm Quote Link to comment
Tom W. Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Yes I meant would @LeeElston better achieve what he wants using the Custom Stair tool rather than the Stair Tool. As per my screenshots You can twiddle around for ages with the walk line settings in the Stair tool trying to get the winder you want but seems a bit more straightforward using the (legacy) Custom Stair Stair is the one in building shell tool set. Custom, Simple + Circular are legacy. Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Tom, Thank you for the correction. Quote Link to comment
LeeElston Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Its an existing stair in a 100 year old UK terraced house so it's legality, building code compliance or safety concerns are not a major issue!! I can't however seem to find a 'legacy' "custom" stair tool... only the "simple" or "circular" stair. Is the custom option only in Designer? I am using the default tool with the settings options as per image stair 5... Only other tools I can see are those mentioned above, image stair 4 Quote Link to comment
Tom W. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hi @LeeElston did you look in the 'Legacy' section? But if not + you stick with the default Stair you can also try like Zoomer says messing around with the walk line offset + Min Inside Tread depth settings + perhaps eventually get what you want. Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, LeeElston said: Its an existing stair in a 100 year old UK terraced house so it's legality, building code compliance or safety concerns are not a major issue!! I OK, existing Building. Interesting. So intentional. Haven't seen it from that side. Maybe it is cool. A quasi landing ? Would love to do a test walk. Quote Link to comment
LeeElston Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Obvious if you know where to look!! Many thanks Tom Quote Link to comment
Tom W. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 no worries good luck @zoomer afterwards you can test walk this one: 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Mark Innes Posted June 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2022 Please whoever in VW is in charge of the Stair tool, you need to understand that the world is not ruled by US regs [or any other single dominion]. In the UK, we do not have the walk-line rule. AT ALL. Not for existing / old stairs, nor for Proposed / new stairs. We do have a rule regarding Offset, but I wouldn't want to impose this on any other country. So please allow us to over-ride the Walk-line. Also, we no longer have a rule limiting the number of risers in a flight to no less than two - in a new residential house, we can have single steps. YES REALLY. So either: make any 'Rules' opt-in voluntary or: offer a set of rules tailored to every dominion / state / local authority [e.g. England differs from Scotland differs from Wales] and allow the user to choose from a drop-down Please do not force us to submit to US rules and look like fools to UK clients. This has been the case for years, you've had feedback for years that a change must be made, and you've done nothing. 6 Quote Link to comment
jnr Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Unfortunately the stair tool still flat out sucks despite everyone clamoring for a better one. can't customize stairs, the menus are ridiculous and almost impossible to understand. Completely counterintuitive. Custom stair tool will do this stair but because its legacy, prone to fail, or at least that's been my experience. you have to be gentle with it. Quote Link to comment
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