axhake Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Just trying out the new Grid tool in VW 2021 and it is a vast improvement to what we had, thank you. I have just recreated a grid from a previous project and noticed a small problem. To demonstrate I have created a small grid as shown below. Grids 1,2 are both vertical Grid 5 is horizontal Grids 3, 4, 6, 7 as can be seen are not vertical/horizontal. The example image below is viewed in a Top/Plan view. However if I then switch to a Top view, look at grid ( 3 ) the text is rotated. In Top view grids text between 12 and 6 o-clock get rotated 180 deg... why? And if you add bubbles both ends Edited September 17, 2020 by axhake Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 Can you attach a file with the grid lines in it? 1 Quote Link to comment
0 axhake Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 Sorry forgot to attach the file, I have just created a new file and added grid lined. Similar pattern, tested and same thing as above VW 2021 Grid test.vwx Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 Thanks for the file. I don't see the issue in your file unless I turn off "Adjust Flipped Text" in the Document Preferences. Is this what you're seeing? Quote Link to comment
0 axhake Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hi Matt, One of the first things I checked. Have just created a video to demonstrate. Alan VW2021 Grid Tool - Rotated Text.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 Thanks for the video, Alan! I can now reproduce this. Bug filed: VB-174203: Grid Line Bubbles display text upside down in Top and other 3D views. Quote Link to comment
0 Popular Post digitalcarbon Posted September 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2020 well done... 8 Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 @digitalcarbon, Thank you for the feedback! 🙂 Quote Link to comment
0 Andy Broomell Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 @digitalcarbon I hadn't thought of using Grid Lines as centerlines. Great idea! Quote Link to comment
0 digitalcarbon Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 the way I was doing it before... red was my main grid blue CL black was my elevation grid Quote Link to comment
0 E|FA Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 @digitalcarbon Great video. Keep them coming. They should hire you for the 2022 release videos. Quote Link to comment
0 Mitchell (the other one) Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I have been trying out the new grid line tool and really like it. I have a question about how it is meant to be placed. In the attached image I placed the grid line at the corners of the shape. Then dragged the bubbles to align. Then using Dimension Grid Sequence I get the attached result. The dimensions are placed at the start point for each grid line rather than an offset from the bubble itself. Also, the Add Elbow to Shoulder(s) seems to work from the start point and dividing the shoulder into equal thirds. In my drawings this feature (which I really love!) would be better working a fixed distance from the grid bubble. I can get them to align however the dragging and aligning of the vertex points starts to take away from the "this is cool" quality of the tool. Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Mitchell (the other one) said: I have been trying out the new grid line tool and really like it. I have a question about how it is meant to be placed. In the attached image I placed the grid line at the corners of the shape. Then dragged the bubbles to align. Then using Dimension Grid Sequence I get the attached result. The dimensions are placed at the start point for each grid line rather than an offset from the bubble itself. Also, the Add Elbow to Shoulder(s) seems to work from the start point and dividing the shoulder into equal thirds. In my drawings this feature (which I really love!) would be better working a fixed distance from the grid bubble. I can get them to align however the dragging and aligning of the vertex points starts to take away from the "this is cool" quality of the tool. The dimensions being placed at the start/end points are by design. The objects should be placed with that in mind (the start/ends should not be at the actual model geometry). The shoulder control point reshape behavior was also implemented to address a variety of cases without adding too much complexity. However, we can look into ways to improve this in the future. Also keep in mind that you can select multiple Grid Lines and reshape them or their shoulders at the same time. Quote Link to comment
0 Mitchell (the other one) Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Matt Panzer said: The dimensions being placed at the start/end points are by design. The objects should be placed with that in mind (the start/ends should not be at the actual model geometry). The shoulder control point reshape behavior was also implemented to address a variety of cases without adding too much complexity. However, we can look into ways to improve this in the future. Also keep in mind that you can select multiple Grid Lines and reshape them or their shoulders at the same time. Thanks - just figuring out what might be the best workflow for the grid lines. Rather than adjusting a number of vertex points I created a temporary rectangle and then aligned the grid lines with each corner (thank you smart cursor) on the temporary rectangle. All grid bubbles, dimensions and shoulder elbows now align. The OCD in me is now content. 3 Quote Link to comment
0 digitalcarbon Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 so i watched the grid tool video. so it seems like you designed this to work as one single object BUT then you can also automate several when you have more of a standard system....this is exactly how to build things 1 Quote Link to comment
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axhake
Just trying out the new Grid tool in VW 2021 and it is a vast improvement to what we had, thank you.
I have just recreated a grid from a previous project and noticed a small problem.
To demonstrate I have created a small grid as shown below.
Grids 1,2 are both vertical
Grid 5 is horizontal
Grids 3, 4, 6, 7 as can be seen are not vertical/horizontal.
The example image below is viewed in a Top/Plan view.
However if I then switch to a Top view, look at grid ( 3 ) the text is rotated.
In Top view grids text between 12 and 6 o-clock get rotated 180 deg... why?
And if you add bubbles both ends
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