Tom Klaber Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Somebody please explain more. That video explanation is woefully short on details. I see there is an installation file that comes with program download - how does this work?? 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tamsin Slatter Posted September 16, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hi Tom You'll find full instructions on how to install the server and then connect to it, on this page in Vectorworks Help. 3 Quote Link to comment
Administrator Popular Post JuanP Posted September 16, 2020 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 In addition to the online help, we just made available the following tutorial from the Vectorworks University 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Thank you... This makes clear I am not qualified to do this. 🙂 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tamsin Slatter Posted September 16, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 16, 2020 We were scared at first... be brave... give it a try! Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Tamsin Slatter said: We were scared at first... be brave... give it a try! Thank you for the encouragement! We currently run on Google Drive - so the real hurdle is I need to first set up a server to try it on. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tamsin Slatter Posted September 16, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 16, 2020 Any computer can act as the "server". It doesn't need to be a scary machine running server-ish functions. It just needs to be a machine that the team can all see on the network. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tamsin Slatter Posted September 16, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 16, 2020 But, of course, when I say "any computer", that can't be Google Drive. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tom Klaber Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yeah. All of it is a little over my head. We do not even have a real LAN. With all the remote working - we need to set up a remove server - that people can install. I figure it is not hard to do - but I have some schooling to do. 1 Quote Link to comment
JMR Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Eg. for our Synology DS 1517+ NAS server I guess I need to install this package(?): https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/packages/Docker 2 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted September 16, 2020 Administrator Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, JMR said: for our Synology DS 1517+ NAS server I guess I need to install this package(?): yes, that is correct. 4 Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted September 16, 2020 Administrator Share Posted September 16, 2020 @JMR You can also check this video about installing with Docker. https://university.vectorworks.net/course/view.php?id=448 3 Quote Link to comment
_James Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 @JuanP or @Tamsin Slatter - could you explain a little more about the benefits of using this? We have a NAS in the office but unsure if it's worth the effort to install the Project Sharing Server on to it in a docker container as has been illustrated. What are the benefits of doing this vs. remotely connecting to the NAS and working on a project file that is stored on there? At the start of lockdown we found that remotely connecting to the NAS and working with project sharing this way was not very stable. Does project sharing server help with this? 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tolu Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 @_James If you are using Project Sharing and working remotely, you should be using Project Sharing with a cloud service (Dropbox or Resilio provides the best performance). This setup is the best. If that setup is not feasible, you will have to connect to a shared drive using a VPN, but your internet speed must be fast relative to your file size. If you currently connect to a shared drive (Win, Mac, NAS) in an office or via a VPN, I recommend installing the Project Sharing Server on the shared drive. With the Project Sharing Server (PSS), we no longer rely on the operating system (OS) when locking the Project File. With users using different operating systems and multiple file protocols (smb, AFP, etc.), there was no reliable way to lock the Project File. The PSS eliminates this problem. We now have a process running on the server or NAS that handles all operations on the Project File - this gives us full control, and it eliminates any surprises. Also, we no longer rely on smb and AFP with the Project Sharing Server. Vectorworks communicates with the PSS using HTTP, which works irrespective of the OS you are using. You mentioned you had problems remotely connecting to a NAS. What were the issues? Did you get any alerts? Were you using a VPN connection? Understanding these problems might shed some light on the root problems, and I can provide a more specific recommendation. Thanks, Tolu 3 Quote Link to comment
StefanoT Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Where I can find the psserverd.tar.gz to be installed/uploaded on the docker app (as from the instructions/video by @JuanP? Opening my installer (macOS) I only see this, but if I unzip the files they're 1KB (and not working). I've the feeling I am missing something, thanks for any help! Edited September 17, 2020 by str Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tolu Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 @str Once you unzip "ProjectSharingServerInstaller-565726-docker-image1.zip", you will see the docker image file named "project-sharing-server.tar". Thanks Quote Link to comment
StefanoT Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Thanks @Tolu for your prompt reply, I can see it but the .zip is 1KB and the .tar is 0 KB and not working (installing from Vectorworks2021-SP0-564899-SeriesBEG-installer4-osx.dmg). Should I download the dmg again? Edited September 17, 2020 by str Quote Link to comment
_James Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hi @Tolu, thanks for the info. We were using project sharing with a direct connection to the NAS but have now switched to dropbox. I think our issues were to do with 2 things: - no VPN connection - slow internet speeds Everyone's home internet obviously varies quite a lot but I know for myself at the beginning of lockdown it was about 15Mb/s. Are there speeds you would recommend or recommend nothing less than X Mb/s for example? What is a fast internet speed relative to file size, perhaps you could give an example as a ratio? Finally to be clear, is working via dropbox better than working with PSS? Or will the performance and stability be roughly equal on both? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tolu Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, _James said: Hi @Tolu, thanks for the info. We were using project sharing with a direct connection to the NAS but have now switched to dropbox. I think our issues were to do with 2 things: - no VPN connection - slow internet speeds I suspected as much. Using Dropbox is the best solution for your setup. The Project Sharing Server will not help you. Our hardware recommendations are here: https://www.vectorworks.net/sysreq. You need at least ~50 mbps. 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tolu Posted September 17, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, str said: Thanks @Tolu for your prompt reply, I can see it but the .zip is 1KB and the .tar is 0 KB and not working (installing from Vectorworks2021-SP0-564899-SeriesBEG-installer4-osx.dmg). Should I download the dmg again? The docker installer seems to be corrupt. We are working to resolve the issue. Sorry for the inconvenience. 2 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Tolu Posted September 21, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 21, 2020 @str Here is a link to download the latest docker image: https://release.vectorworks.net/nnapub/all/2021/SP0/564899/NNA/eng/ProjectSharingServer/565726/rebuild_20200917/ProjectSharingServerInstaller-565726-docker-image1.zip Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment
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