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Sometimes, you find that the tool you want is not on the fundamentals tools, but you can add it manually. At the bottom of the tool palette is a Utility Menu,  click on the menu and choose Customise...

 

see if you can find the stair tools and add them to your palette. 

 

 

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No, you’re not missing something. According to this PDF of 2020 Commands / Tools, neither of the Stair tools are included with Fundamentals:

  • Stair tool is included with Designer / Architect / Landmark;
  • Simple Stair tool is included with Landmark / Spotlight / Braceworks (but can be added to Designer / Architect). 

http://app-help.vectorworks.net/2020/eng/Commands_Tools2020.pdf

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@Jonathan Pickup Thanks, yes, I confidently tried this assuming I would find it, but to my chagrin it is completely gone. Now my files have dead stair symbols, and I'm scratching my head that a simple stair tool isn't considered fundamental....

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On 9/6/2020 at 2:58 PM, rDesign said:

No, you’re not missing something. According to this PDF of 2020 Commands / Tools, neither of the Stair tools are included with Fundamentals:

  • Stair tool is included with Designer / Architect / Landmark;
  • Simple Stair tool is included with Landmark / Spotlight / Braceworks (but can be added to Designer / Architect). 

http://app-help.vectorworks.net/2020/eng/Commands_Tools2020.pdf

@rDesign Thanks for confirming. Still in shock.

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Fundamentals used to be a lot more complete, but many tools have quietly disappeared over the years. We have some Fundamentals licenses and the missing tools are actually quite annoying when being used to the more complete versions. 

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If you still have the previous version installed you can copy that version's stair tool over to the new version's function library. It may or may not function due to changes in the underlying commands but it is worth a try. You would have to add it to your menu for new use but that's not necessary if you only want the existing instances to function.

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On 9/6/2020 at 11:58 AM, rDesign said:

No, you’re not missing something. According to this PDF of 2020 Commands / Tools, neither of the Stair tools are included with Fundamentals:

  • Stair tool is included with Designer / Architect / Landmark;
  • Simple Stair tool is included with Landmark / Spotlight / Braceworks (but can be added to Designer / Architect). 

http://app-help.vectorworks.net/2020/eng/Commands_Tools2020.pdf

Sorry, uh someone check my understanding of what @rDesign meant above: A vectorworks PIO tool - specifically the Simple Stair Tool - available in prior-year VWX Fundamentals has been removed from subsequent iterations of VWX F, potentially leaving dwg elements and instances marooned, uneditable?

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4 hours ago, mjm said:

Sorry, uh someone check my understanding of what @rDesign meant above: A vectorworks PIO tool - specifically the Simple Stair Tool - available in prior-year VWX Fundamentals has been removed from subsequent iterations of VWX F, potentially leaving dwg elements and instances marooned, uneditable?


As an End User, I have no idea about the Vw apparent decision to not include the Simple Stair with Fundamentals. As I have always been an Architect user — I have no idea if / when the Simple Stair tool was included with Fundamentals, and when / why did it stop being included.
 

I was merely stating what is in the Vw2020 Commands / Tools PDF (relevant portions screencapped below).
 

Someone from Vw will have to address your question about what this means for Fundamentals users going forward.

 

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3 hours ago, rDesign said:


As an End User, I have no idea about the Vw apparent decision to not include the Simple Stair with Fundamentals. As I have always an Architect user — I have no idea if / when the Simple Stair tool was included with Fundamentals, and when / why did it stop being included.
 

I was merely stating what is in the Vw2020 Commands / Tools PDF (relevant portions screencapped below).
 

Someone from Vw will have to address your question about what this means for Fundamentals users going forward.

 

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Yep, I agree.

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The ability for Fundamentals users to use several formerly-included plug-in tools (including the Wall Tool) was removed in the VW 2019 release.

 

On 9/10/2020 at 12:39 AM, Claes Lundstrom said:

Fundamentals used to be a lot more complete, but many tools have quietly disappeared over the years. We have some Fundamentals licenses and the missing tools are actually quite annoying when being used to the more complete versions. 

 

It wasn't entirely quiet - there used to be a thread discussing it from back when it happened, but that thread appears to have been removed from the forum.

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