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Is the recommended workflow to place Data Tags on a Design Layer or in SLVP Annotations? It works both ways, but I get a very long 'spinning beach ball' lag when I place it in an SLVP Annotation that I do not get when I place it on a DL. Once I get it successfully placed in a SLVP Annotation, selecting the Data Tag again to move it triggers another long spinning beach ball. 

 

I have also found out that Data Tags (at least the Door Dims one found in THIS thread) when placed on a DL do not scale properly with differently scaled SLVPs. So a Data Tag designed with a 10pt font placed on a 1:48 DL becomes 20pt when viewed in a 1:24 SLVP; in other words, it is 2x too large. Is this the expected behavior?

 

Additionally -- using the Door Dims Data Tag from that other thread as my example -- I would like my door dimensions to show up as 36x80 (not as 3'0"6'8"), so I change the Units in the 'Define Tag Field' to Inches, Click OK, but when I reopen the Define Tag Field dialogue box, it has reverted back to Document Default Units.

 

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Here ya go, there are three versions, the original, one that displays as 36 80 and one that displays as 36x80.

Yes, Data Tags are set up to work best on Sheet Layers so that the WILL scale properly.  I'm not experiencing the lag you mention.

Door Dims on Leaf.vwx

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20 hours ago, rDesign said:

Is the recommended workflow to place Data Tags on a Design Layer or in SLVP Annotations? It works both ways, but I get a very long 'spinning beach ball' lag when I place it in an SLVP Annotation that I do not get when I place it on a DL. Once I get it successfully placed in a SLVP Annotation, selecting the Data Tag again to move it triggers another long spinning beach ball. 

@rDesignCould you send me the file showing the lag for further testing please? You can send me a Direct Message or email to jalmansa@vectorworks.net thanks

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6 hours ago, Wes Gardner said:

Here ya go, there are three versions, the original, one that displays as 36 80 and one that displays as 36x80.

 

Great - Thank you @Wes Gardner. That works like a charm!

 

Now I realize what my mistakes were -- in that I didn't fully understand how the 'Define Tag Field' dialogue box worked:

  1. I thought you had to manually type in the Data Source tag parameter names in the Current Tag Field Definition box;
  2. I didn't realize that the 'Add to Definition' button was for both of the upper field selections. The section right above the 'Add to Definition' button was greyed out, so I missed the button completely.

Maybe I was just being dense, but to me the UI in this dialogue could use some improvement. 

 

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6 hours ago, Wes Gardner said:

Yes, Data Tags are set up to work best on Sheet Layers so that the WILL scale properly.

 

Thanks for the clarification on this. Perhaps I missed it, but the Help File page on Using Data Tags doesn't make the distinction that if you want your Data Tags to scale properly they MUST be placed on a Sheet Layer. It only says the following:

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The data tag is placed in the appropriate plane, depending on where the tool is used.

●        Viewport in an annotation context: annotation plane

●        Design layer in Top/Plan view: layer plane

●        Design layer in a 3D view: active plane

 

 

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5 hours ago, JuanP said:

@rDesignCould you send me the file showing the lag for further testing please? You can send me a Direct Message or email to jalmansa@vectorworks.net thanks

 

@JuanP - I sent you a DM with a sample file showing the 'Data Tag Lag' in SLVP Annotations. Thank you.

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