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If anything, it's slower. I expected 11.5 to be faster than 10.5, which it wasn't -- much much slower -- and 12 so far is even worse.

I found that often a final render was faster than Open GL rendering! Outrageous. (All this on a Mac G5 dual processor machine.)

And, A simple test I've done, has real strange errors in rendering. I drew a circle and rectangle, with some overlap, and extruded them. Filleted the edges. Chose a color. The color shows up in OpenGL rendering but it's gray in final. But in open GL the surfaces disappear, though they are there in final. Different rendering styles give different -- inconsistent -- results.

This is very depressing. Then again, the interface is different enough that it probably won't be all that bad to switch to Solidworks, which I am -- sadly -- thinking of doing. VW 12 is just too slow, and not really optimized for mechanical design.

Please fix it so I don't have to get a PC!

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Hi Eddie,

The file you sent me on August 17, 2005 (ABC Childcare) was timed by our engineer to be faster in 12 than 11.5.1 and likely faster than in 11.0.1. I have asked our QA staff to run some fresh numbers with the final release of VW12 as the engineering timings were done with a late beta. We have had similar results with rest files sent to us by Tech Forum user DDDesign. I'll post an update when we have new results.

Hi Jeff,

I haven't heard from you before on your issues in 11.5. I'll offer the same thing to you as I have offered in the past to Eddie & David who have had past concerns about render speed. Please send me a file representing the problem case and describe what you have noticed - either slowdowns from past releases or geometry problems, and I'll get them looked at ASAP. I'll be glad to let you know what we find.

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Thanks Pharr.

I appreciate your efforts.

If any more of the new VW 12 users can comment on speed in compared with 11.1, or 11.5, we would all appreciate it!

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In Windows I had no speed problems with 11.x and through the later beta cycle for the last couple of months no speed problems with 12. Everything is fast on my machine.

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Just installed 12 and have noticed a minor increase in speed in Final Render mode. Any increase in render speed is money in the bank in my opinion.

[ 11-05-2005, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Runtime Error ]

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Hi Eddie,

These are the results from your test file:

Dual 2.7 GHz G5, Mac OS 10.4.3, 2.5 GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9650

FQRW (Low)/ 11.0.1: 3 mins 31 secs

FQRW (Low)/ 11.5.1: 5 mins 1 secs

FQRW (Low)/ 12.0.0: 3 mins 30 secs

It was slower in 11.5 because we were rendering multiple tiles rather than all at once & this was restored in VectorWorks 12.

If I were in Marketing, I'd say that viewport rendering in 12 is faster than either 11 or 11.5.

Here are some results of render speed tests of a file provided by forum user DDDesign:

11-7-2005 Results: 1.8GHz G5 w/ 1GB RAM running 10.3.9

FQRW test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 13 secs

FQRW test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 22 secs

FQRW test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 14 secs

FQRW test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 13.50 secs

FQRW test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 22 secs

FQRW test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 9 secs

HLR test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 34 secs

HLR test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 22 secs

HLR test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 16 secs

HLR test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 5 secs

HLR test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 5 secs

HLR test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 3 secs

CustomRW test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 19 secs

CustomRW test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 28 secs

CustomRW test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Very High' --> 18 secs

CustomRW test: 11.0.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 18 secs

CustomRW test: 11.5.1/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 27 secs

CustomRW test: 12.0.0/ 3D conversion res 'Low' --> 22 secs

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Hi. I'm interested to know if VW12 is also faster in 2D redrawing.

I'm having files that on my G5 DP 2,0 employ 18 sec. for total redrawing, and I would have an opinion if the graphic card can influence a lot... in this case would be disposed to spend monay to change my radeon 9600pro with a 9800xt or a x800. [Confused]

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Hi aladino, could you send us the files you are having problems with so we can investigate this further ? also do you have Quartz turned ON or OFF in the VW Prefs dialog ?

Walid Remaili

Quality Assurance

wremaili@nemetschek.net

NNA

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