Stacking Walls with Different Materials

[Taylor081]

I am coming from a Revit background trying to transition to an office that uses Vectorworks for BIM. I am trying to create a simple wall that has a exterior facade of  2'  brick base, 5' of storefront windows and then transitions to another material above the storefront. What is the best practice to do this? 

[Diego - Resuelvector]

That's a very good question, I'll ready if anyone have a good way to do this, without using 2 walls one on top of each other...

[E|FA]

My solution has been to use exterior walls without exterior cladding, and then model the siding as 3d objects.  Not ideal, but it works.  Technique courtesy of @Jonathan Pickup.

[Diego - Resuelvector]

8 minutes ago, E|FA said:

My solution has been to use exterior walls without exterior cladding, and then model the siding as 3d objects.  Not ideal, but it works.  Technique courtesy of @Jonathan Pickup.

Nice trick, I'll love to see Stacked Walls in Vectorworks someday...

 

[E|FA]

5 minutes ago, Diego-Resuelvectorworks said:

I'll love to see Stacked Walls in Vectorworks someday

I agree completely.

[zoomer]

I read VW 2021 will be about new Wall System.

My expectations are, as always, pretty low 🙂

Let's hope for a surprise.

 

Nevertheless there are quite a few workarounds.

Beside

55 minutes ago, E|FA said:

My solution has been to use exterior walls without exterior cladding, and then model the siding as 3d objects.

There may be also by faking Composition Dimensions with custom Components Heights

to look like stacked Components for visualization purposes if applicable.

Or using a second Wall above the Windows, on a separate Class or better Layer to

hide for horizontal sections Plan Generation.

Maybe more.

 

What is most suitable depends on the specific Project.

 

Generally you can insert Windows and Doors in a single Wall only.

Also stacked duplicated Walls may cause problems with Auto- Joining

[Markvl]

It has been on my wish list for the past 5 years.  I try not to get to excited around release time.  Last few years have been slim pickings for the Architectural side of things. 

[Arash_toun]

I have a solution, but it requires coping the current wall. You can create the first wall with specifying an offset for the bottom of the inner wall and choose the material for it. and the copy and past the new wall and place it exactly in the same position, and this time remove the bottom offset and instead specify an offset for the top of the wall. (keep in mind to calculate the offsets accordingly so the sum of both corresponds to the height of the wall.

 You can delete the outer side of the copy-pasted wall as well. Now you have the inner side with two materials and the positioning of the windows and doors are intact and clean.

 

Hope it helps 🙂

'P.S. for the offset of the top of the wall you need to specify the value in negatives. otherwise it will add to the height of the wall if you specify in positive value 😄

 

Cheers,

Arash

[TomKen]

Here is an example of a stacked wall that I used for a project.    It involves faking some of the material thicknesses and using component offsets.    It does mean that I have to draw over the block in my section viewports to make it look correct.Stacked Wall.vwx

Edited April 14, 2021 by TomKen

[Tom W.]

Hi @TomKen can you post a VW2020 version? be interested to see many thanks

[TomKen]

@Tom W.Stacked Wall Version 2020Stacked Wall v2020.vwx

[Tom W.]

Cool thank you looks great 👍

[DBrown]

On 2/18/2020 at 10:34 AM, Taylor081 said:

I am coming from a Revit background trying to transition to an office that uses Vectorworks for BIM. I am trying to create a simple wall that has a exterior facade of  2'  brick base, 5' of storefront windows and then transitions to another material above the storefront. What is the best practice to do this? 

Another year has passed and our wall tool in Vectorworks stil don't to this basic function, all the other BIM apps out there are are doing that for years now... lets hope someday in the future, maybe in the 2030 version?

[Kimbo]

Copying a wall and then pasting it above the other is basically taking a step backwards.

I cannot believe "made up" solutions for an expensive legitimate BIM package is still required.

[DBrown]

On 5/25/2023 at 3:17 AM, Kimbo said:

Copying a wall and then pasting it above the other is basically taking a step backwards.

I cannot believe "made up" solutions for an expensive legitimate BIM package is still required.

I totally agree with you, all of the major BIM apps have this option for, like forever, sometimes I wonder if Vectorworks is even trying to compete with them, even in the videos Vectorworks shows the benefits of Vectorwoks agains Autocad, a CAD software! or with Sketchup! Seems to be embarrased to do one showing off against any real BIM software!

Stacking walls in Vectorwoks: Keep dreaming!
Change control in Vectorworks: Not a chance!
MEP in Vectorworks: Who does it ?
Pivot doors in Vectorworks: What's that?
Real projections of objects in Vectorworks. Ha!

And I can keep going....
 

Edited June 6, 2023 by DBrown

[dmarks]

I was also hoping in the latest release 2024 we could make stacking walls. Please someone come up with a simple way to do different textures on one wall !!!!!!!