AStein Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Hey. Searched for this for a bit and couldn't find anything. I just did a very large show where I assigned every motor a hoist label, distro, cable length, X/Y and a few other parameters. Scrolling up and down the object info palette became very onerous after about 100 hoists... So I went into the plug in manager and moved things around so the parameters I use are all at the top. It displayed just fine, but this generally broke the hoist plug in. entering a number might change the hoist symbol, where changing a hoist function would do nothing, etc. I'm missing something, right? Also, it would be nice to copy the default hoist plugin and duplicate it into a custom plug in so I could screw around without having to reinstall VW when I do something that breaks the plugin. Thanks Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 @Sam Jones ?? Quote Link to comment
Sam Jones Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 This is not an option for you. There is no access to the code for the Hoist plug-in so copying and modifying it can't happen. As you discovered, moving the parameters is not an option if you want to retain hoist OIP functionality. This is true for every plug-in object except for the Lighting Device that was re-engineered from the ground up to allow for parameter additions and manipulation. If you want to keep using hoists with their functionality, you might try crafting a special worksheet with the parameter fields presented in the order you want and keeping it open for hoist editing. Not what you want, but its about all you can do unless you make your own hoist object without the help of the code already developed for VW hoists. Quote Link to comment
AStein Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 That's a bummer... But thanks for the reply. VW is so close to being awesome, then there's these little hiccups that we all live with. I might see if I can make my own and copy/paste the strings for reporting and coordinates from other things. Maybe... Quote Link to comment
Sam Jones Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 What is it that you need specifically. Once you give each hoist an ID or label, editing in a worksheet where you only have the fields you want should be pretty efficient, and you get the coordinate reporting that is pretty slick, relative to a specified origin. Quote Link to comment
AStein Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) That's basically what I do now, but it makes collaborating and last minute changes a nightmare. Then, when we go into second pods or seasons, everything's wrong on the drawing and it's changed enough that the worksheets might as well be hieroglyphs. I'm not losing any work or not getting what I need, ultimately. It's just a huge pain when the shows get really big. Edit: Sorry, didn't answer your question: I'm trying to move things around within the OIP by editing the plug in in the plug in manager. I'd love to just copy-paste the bundled one as a custom plugin so I can play around, but it seems to be protected/hidden. I can and have done what I'm saying with custom symbols and all, but it breaks the plug in. Edited February 4, 2020 by AStein Quote Link to comment
Sam Jones Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If you had a worksheet like the one below, I'm not sure why collaborating or last minute changes would make editing fields any more difficult than editing in the OIP? Quote Link to comment
AStein Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Sam Jones: Thought you were crazy, but decided to give you the benefit of the doubt for a minute. I had no idea that hoist worksheets looped back into the actual symbol data. I've been under the impression that it was just a glorified xcel sheet. You sir have just knocked hours off of my workflow. Thank you! Quote Link to comment
Sam Jones Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You're very welcome, and it is why the list is here. Don't be shy Quote Link to comment
JBenghiat Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 If you're using 2020, take a look at the Data Manager. You can define a "Data Sheet" that lets you limit and re-order fields. It works with both Record and Plug-in fields. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Peter Neufeld Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Dear Josh, A revelation! I never knew that the Data Manager could be used like this. Fantastic! I've enclosed snapshots for those who like me (thanks again Josh!) couldn't figure this out at first. Cheers, Peter 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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