Julian78 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, I am trying to trace over this plan using bitmap (this is actually my first time doing this) I need to red-draw the plan at scale 1:50 which is now to scale. I have uploaded the PDF and re-scaled to size. So far so good. Now I tried to go to Modify --> Trace Bitmap and this pop up comes up "A Bitmap object must be selected". Can you please help why I am doing wrong? Thank you for your help. Edited January 13, 2020 by Julian78 Quote Link to comment
unearthed Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The system is telling you it wants a bitmap - a .pdf is not a bitmap - you need a .jpg or similar image file. Do you have the original vector-based pdf that your notes are drawn on? Just explode it and build your drawing from that. Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 @unearthed I think I have managed! I simply converted my pdf to a bitmap file and then rescaled to size. Let's see how I get on now (this is my first time doing this). Thanks though. Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I have then selected modify --> Trace Bitmap ( using the bitmap file as above) --> The pop up box is set to 4 and medium. And then it seems the computer starts struggling (or worse crashes) and I get these crazy lines all over with no snap points. Does anyone know why? Or is there any alternative to get those snap points to I can trace over some of the plan? Hope someone can help! Thanks Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 14, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hello @Julian78, Could you send me the image file? I want to give it a try and if I succeed I will send you the vwx file with the result. Thanks, Nikolay Zhelyazkov Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Nikolay Zhelyazkov Sure thank you so much! This is the bitmap file which once I upload to VW I would need to resize to 1:50.but I can't upload it on here so let me send you the pdf (but this is not a vector pdf) instead - I need to redraw only the outlined red area. Maybe I am doing something wrong? plan.pdf Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 14, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 14, 2020 Here is what I managed to get. Let me know if it gets the job done for you. Vectorize Test.vwx Best Regards, Nikolay Zhelyazkov Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Nikolay Zhelyazkov Thank you can you please explain how you did it? I cannot open the file - see screenshot sadly! Do you convert that pdf to become a bitmap object? If I upload the bitmap image of the pdf file it won't work. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 14, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Julian78, The file is VW2020 file, which version of VW are you using? I have created it with a demo tool that I have, but I still had to convert the pdf to jpg. Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 @Nikolay Zhelyazkov I am using 2019 SP6 (Build 522773). I thought I had the latest though.. do you think that's why Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 15, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 15, 2020 @Julian78 Here is a VW2019 file that you should be able to open: Vectorize Test v2019.vwx You will not be able to get this result, because the tool it is made with is still only a demo and not available. Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 @Nikolay Zhelyazkov Thank you very much. The tool does pick up on all the lines! Very accurate, although the lines are serrated but nevertheless this is a big help. Thank you. Is this a tool that is being developed by VW Inc? Again, much appreciate this, I was trying to trace over a new design layer and this is so time-consuming. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 15, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 15, 2020 Glad to help. 🙂 56 minutes ago, Julian78 said: Is this a tool that is being developed by VW Inc? - Yes. Quote Link to comment
Julian78 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 @Nikolay Zhelyazkov thanks again😀 Quote Link to comment
DBruhnke Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 4:10 AM, Nikolay Zhelyazkov said: Glad to help. 🙂 - Yes. Will this new tool be Available in VW 2021? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 16, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 16, 2020 Hello @DBruhnke, 3 minutes ago, DBruhnke said: Will this new tool be Available in VW 2021? - The tool is just a demo and it is still not certain if it will be released in any of the future versions or not. Best Regards, Nikolay Zhelyazkov Quote Link to comment
DBruhnke Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 7:47 AM, Nikolay Zhelyazkov said: - The tool is just a demo and it is still not certain if it will be released in any of the future versions or not. @Nikolay Zhelyazkov Upon further review... While the conversion is better with fewer anomalies, for the most part, this type of conversion for raster PDF files is not much use. None of the lines are really usable. Perhaps there is another solution in the works in lieu of the enhanced Trace Bitmap? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Nikolay Zhelyazkov Posted January 20, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DBruhnke said: Perhaps there is another solution in the works in lieu of the enhanced Trace Bitmap? Hello @DBruhnke, I am sorry to hear that the provided example did not help. I do not know of any other way to get better results. You could ungroup the result from the file I have sent you and delete the parts that you do not need, such as texts. Better results could be given with a clearer scheme with higher quality and maybe less details. Best Regards, Nikolay Zhelyazkov Quote Link to comment
DBruhnke Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 22 hours ago, Nikolay Zhelyazkov said: I do not know of any other way to get better results. @Nikolay Zhelyazkov The trace bitmap is perhaps helpful for logos or non technical drawings. For linework on a plan, elevation or detail, something like Scan2CAD capabilities would be amazing. Not tracing the outside of the lines but creating the lines themselves. https://www.scan2cad.com/ While nowhere near perfect, this software has the ability to "convert" a line instead of "tracing" both sides. #JusSayin Untitled.dwg Quote Link to comment
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