C. Andrew Dunning Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I am trying to get my head around the "Truss Object" workflow as compared to the "truss Symbol" workflow - specifically, in terms of editing truss Systems/assemblies. In the attached file is a truss System/assembly created using the Truss Insertion tool and "Truss Object"-enabled Symbols. What is workflow YOU would follow (VW-ascribed or not) to...: 1) Swap out the 4 silver 10' sections for 4 black sections? 2) Swap out the right-end 10' section for an 8'? 3) Swap out the 4, 10's for 8, 5's? I've included other truss Symbols (enabled to work w. the Truss tool) for your convenience. Really simple under the "Symbol" workflow: Select a Symbol instance and, after clicking "Replace" in either the right-click menu or in the OIP, select the new Symbol - and then, if necessary, add needed sections. I'm not seeing the same simplicity w. the "Truss Object" workflow and would welcome any counsel. 2020_Truss_Tinkering.vwx 3 Quote Link to comment
mjm Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I have spent much of this week grinding my teeth every time I have needed to make a change in truss for exactly these reasons. Quote Link to comment
Mark Aceto Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I don't need to open the file to know this pain. I can live with the logic of replacing a longer stick with a shorter stick (adjusting the assembly for that would be a nice-to-have) but the unrotated 3D orientation of the replacement symbol (a must-have) is what really grates my gears. Quote Link to comment
scottmoore Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Perhaps it is just me, however, from a design mindset, it is important to get ideas out of one’s head and into the computer as quickly and accurately as possible. It seems like the initial design process has become overly complicated in service of simplifying the details required after a design has been approved. I find it frustrating and typically just avoid it altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mark Aceto Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 hours ago, scottmoore said: Perhaps it is just me, however, from a design mindset, it is important to get ideas out of one’s head and into the computer as quickly and accurately as possible. It seems like the initial design process has become overly complicated in service of simplifying the details required after a design has been approved. I find it frustrating and typically just avoid it altogether. That perfectly describes my chief criticism of most new "improvements" introduced over the past few years: death by a thousand clicks. To Andy's point: a symbol that's properly classed, should be replaced with the same attributes and in the same orientation. Otherwise, it's "Two steps forward (six steps back, six steps back, six steps back, six steps back)". This is why most of the shops and designers I work with don't even use the Title Black Tool (and when they do, they heavily misuse it). 3 Quote Link to comment
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