Loci are rendering and visible in PDF output?

[Kevin McAllister]

Hello,

 

I've been having some issues recently where loci are actually rendering and appearing in PDF files. Loci have always been screen only in the past and I'm wondering what has changed. Its happening in a couple of existing files that were brought forward into VW2020. I haven't been able to duplicate the issue in a clean file started in VW2020.

 

Here's a couple of examples -

 

This is from a PDF of a perspective sheet layer viewport with foreground Hidden Line and background OpenGL rendering.

 

 

And this is from a PDF of a top view sheet layer viewport with foreground Hidden Line and background OpenGL rendering.

 

 

Really, loci shouldn't be appearing in output at all.

 

@Matt Panzer have you seen this before?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

[Matt Panzer]

53 minutes ago, Kevin McAllister said:

Hello,

 

I've been having some issues recently where loci are actually rendering and appearing in PDF files. Loci have always been screen only in the past and I'm wondering what has changed. Its happening in a couple of existing files that were brought forward into VW2020. I haven't been able to duplicate the issue in a clean file started in VW2020.

 

Here's a couple of examples -

 

This is from a PDF of a perspective sheet layer viewport with foreground Hidden Line and background OpenGL rendering.

 

 

And this is from a PDF of a top view sheet layer viewport with foreground Hidden Line and background OpenGL rendering.

 

 

Really, loci shouldn't be appearing in output at all.

 

@Matt Panzer have you seen this before?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

I have not seen this before.

Can you attach (or send me) a simple file showing the issue?

[Matt Panzer]

Hi Kevin,

 

I got the files from you and I see the loci, but they go away in the Vectorworks file when I update the viewports.  I tested this in VW2020 SP2 and in SP2.1.  Do you know what version you used to update the viewports?

 

-Matt

[Kevin McAllister]

Hi Matt,

 

I've been working in VW2020 SP2. I just updated to VW2020 SP2.1 this morning. I turned off Save Viewport Cache, re-saved and reopened the file to reset all the viewports to un-rendered. When I re-rendered the viewports the problem persisted. Did you test on a Mac or a PC? I'm working on a Mac (system details below in my signature).

 

Kevin

 

 

[Hans-Olav]

Could it be this setting?

 

[Kevin McAllister]

3 hours ago, Hans-Olav said:

Could it be this setting?

 

 

I guess it could be inadvertently related to that setting, but loci aren't supposed to output. From the VW help -

 

 

Kevin

[Art V]

Are you printing or exporting the PDF's? Is there a difference between the two? e.g. they don't show when printed but do when exported, the help refers to printing but does not explicitly say if a locus does/doesn't show when exporting.

[Kevin McAllister]

8 minutes ago, Art V said:

Are you printing or exporting the PDF's? Is there a difference between the two? e.g. they don't show when printed but do when exported, the help refers to printing but does not explicitly say if a locus does/doesn't show when exporting.

 

I'm using the Publish command to generate the PDFs but I suspect that any method will contain them since they are baked into the rendering image.

 

Kevin

 

[Art V]

I'll check later today on my pc to see if it happens there too.

[Art V]

Just did a few attempts and can't get the 3D loci to show up in the PDF output. The only time they showed in the render was during a preview of the viewport properties dialog preview button. It looks like it might be a Mac thing as I am on Windows10.

[Art V]

ok, this is a bit weird after doing the same test with wireframe render:

 

When setting the render to wireframe background render with hidden line foreground render (for testing the loci issue as described above) I get this:

 

Whereas OpenGL background render with hidden line foreground render gives this:

 

The latter one is what it should be, despite the 3D loci set to always display they don't show up while in the first one the 3D loci do show up even though they shouldn't.

The wireframe render is showing an additional distorted view of the same thing, which is something that definitely shouldn't happen.

VWX file is attached.

 

It looks like there is some render bug in VW2020 after all, unless I am missing something (i.e. the wireframe showing the loci is what should happen after all).

 

Untitled1.vwx

 

Edited December 29, 2019 by Art V

[fuberator]

still happening in 2022, the loci are visible in my final quality render