Josh Schulman Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 When placing motors (or hoists) in VW2020, the X and Y values will not update to a given origin on a drawing. As an example, if you have 2 different hoist origins and you toggle back and forth between them, the motors will not change their X/Y values. 1 Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I noticed this also. Here is a thread I started in the Troubleshooting Section. If you are willing to, please like and flag my post so that we can get this issue addressed. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted November 7, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 7, 2019 I've tried to recreate this issue using 2020 sp1 but for me it is functioning correctly, Try using the 'Refresh Hoist' button in the OIP shape tab, if that doesn't work contact the tech support team and they will help you 2 Quote Link to comment
Josh Schulman Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 I think I've found the culprit. The file I"m working on started out as a VW2019 file and was then brought into VW2020. I"ll try it as a 2019 file and see if I keep getting the same results. Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) This is interesting. I checked again to see if I can reproduce the error. It seems that one must keep the box "Relative X, Y On Plot:" checked in order for the Relative X,Y to be recalculated. If that box is not checked, the "Measure From:" numbers do not change. Since I don't use the Relative X,Y on Plot and all of my worksheets reference the Measure From value this still is causing me problems, but I now see the workaround. Thanks for answering my post. Edited November 7, 2019 by stayathomedad Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 It gets really weird if you add the "X" and "Y" Hoist Fields to the Hoist Data Display while having Relative X,Y turned on. Those numbers should be the same, but they aren't. There is definitely something off with this tool and these numbers. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted November 7, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 7, 2019 The Display 'Relative X,Y on plot' section of the OIP controls label displaying the X,Y measurement the check box controls whether the measure label is displayed the 'Dim display X' and 'Dim display Y' fields control the position of the label in relation to the hoist symbol it is attached to and not the data the label itself displays The distance from hoist origin point to the hoists rigging point is always the values displayed in the measure from section of the OIP. 1 Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yes, I understand that. 1. Place a hoist anywhere in a drawing and have the 'Relative X,Y on Plot' check box checked and turned on. 2. Move the hoist and the 'Measure From:' X & Y dimensions behave as expected. 3. Uncheck the 'Relative X,Y on Plot' check box. 4. Move the hoist and the X & Y dimensions do NOT update. If you go through those simple steps you will see what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Also, if you add those 'Measure From:' X and Y distances to the Hoist Data Display and have the 'Relative X,Y on Plot' check box checked you would expect to see the values of those X & Y dimensions to be the same. It ends up that the X & Y dimensions added to the Hoist Data Display actually display the previous measurement when you move the hoist around. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted November 7, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 7, 2019 thanks the additional info has allowed me to duplicate the issue, interestingly if you move/change the origin point or move the hoist itself the relative dimension label displays correctly but the X and Y values in the hoist label display the values for the previous origin or position. I'll get a bug report in 1 Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Thanks. Don't forget to mention that the whole process locks up as soon as you uncheck the 'Relative X,Y On Plot:' With that box unchecked the X & Y dimensions NEVER change. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted November 7, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 7, 2019 Are you using 2020 SP1? 1 Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yes, I have 2020 SP1 and that is where I am seeing this issue. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted November 7, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 7, 2019 cheers 1 Quote Link to comment
stayathomedad Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 FYI - I just checked SP2 and this does not seem to be fixed. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted December 10, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted December 10, 2019 The eng team is working on it at the moment, as the bug report was only entered into the system on the 7th of November it was too short notice to have any chance of it being in the SP2 release. 1 Quote Link to comment
Daniel Cerpa Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I was able to update hoist X and Y values after moving a origin by adding a hoist origin point to the new origin of the room. Quote Link to comment
Left of Center Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Can anyone tell me if this has been fixed in the latest SP? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted August 16, 2021 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted August 16, 2021 Yes this is fixed, I just checked it to make sure (2021sp4) and as far as I can tell it is behaving correctly Quote Link to comment
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