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Hello Forum, I'm putting some viewports on my sheet page, I'm getting strange things happening, they look a mess. I seem to be able to get some elevations to look ok, but any kind of 3d perspective is producing bizarre results, any ideas ? tia 

screenshots attached of how a view in the model space, and then on the sheet page after creating a viewport

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@Wes Gardner file attached (have removed title block from sheet page, doesn't affect strange behaviour) , all these custom symbols are in a seperate 'master file' which produces the same strange results 🤔

thanks for taking a look 👍

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@milezee, something isn't scaling correctly...if I change the scale of the rendered perspective viewport to 1/4", everything looks correct.  Perhaps it's your page-based symbols?  More testing is required here...

 

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Hi Miles and Wes

 

I've had a look at the file and my first thought is that those cabinet symbols seem to be page based rather than world based. My gut feel is that you probably want items like this to be world based. So, I suspect they are not sizing as you expect in the viewport, and that appears as a rendering problem.

Taking a closer look, but that's our initial diagnosis...

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Yep, mystery solved...the symbols should NOT be page-based...

 

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@Tamsin Slatter @Wes Gardner many thanks for the input and diagnosis, much appreciated 👍, will rectify and hopefully not make the same mistake again, still slowly learning and stumbling my way around the VW universe 😁

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9 minutes ago, milezee said:

@Tamsin Slatter @Wes Gardner many thanks for the input and diagnosis, much appreciated 👍, will rectify and hopefully not make the same mistake again, still slowly learning and stumbling my way around the VW universe 😁

You're welcome, and don't worry, you'll get there!

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@Tamsin Slatter,  @Wes Gardner thanks for all of the help you provide.

Can you briefly summarize or point to ann information resource that describes the differences in function and usage

between page based and world based symbols?

Though I'm a long time user, I'm not aware of the distinction.

 

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@dtheoryProbably the easiest way is to type "Symbol" into Vectorworks HELP.  You'll find four colors of symbols for various purposes.

 

Wes

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@Wes Gardner, The implication being, at least in this case, when the cabinets in the file submitted by @milezee, are converted to symbols, 

simply choose world based, rather than page based (correct?).. For some reason, I never seemed to have the need to make that distinction... perhaps when creating symbols in my files, the correct (page or world based) setting was checked by default..  also FWIW, the pages seemed to render correctly in perspective without

my changing any settings in @milezee's file.

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@dtheory, yes, by default, the cabinets and equipment are set to world-based.  Yours my be rendering correctly on the design layer, but on the sheet layer, they'll be odd until your correct the page/world issue.

 

Wes

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Page based symbols would be for an annotation. For example, if you were creating a plan that shows a city centre, and will be shown at a scale such as 1:1000, but you will want to be able to see the symbol for the railway station. 

Hatches and tiles can also be page based - and are used as patterns that will never change regardless of presentation scale. 

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2 hours ago, dtheory said:

@Wes Gardner, The implication being, at least in this case, when the cabinets in the file submitted by @milezee, are converted to symbols, 

simply choose world based, rather than page based (correct?).. For some reason, I never seemed to have the need to make that distinction... perhaps when creating symbols in my files, the correct (page or world based) setting was checked by default..  also FWIW, the pages seemed to render correctly in perspective without

my changing any settings in @milezee's file.

The default option when creating a symbol is world-based, yes.

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