David S Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 In previous iterations of the very helpful create roof tool it is possible to add components so you could effectively depict a thinner tile layer on top of roof rafters, AND enable the tile component to protrude beyond the eaves. However if you ungrouped the roof to redesign it the programme would assume every side of each sub roof face required this protrusion which is not the case, making for a very messy roof.After 3 years I re-attempted this operation today and pleased to discover this issue has been fixed, saving me hours of time in the future using 2 roofs to achieve the same effect. However when I attempt to render the tile (only) element the entire roof renders (understandably) and when I try to render the component only which the programme allows you to do, the operation does not seem to work? Or am I missing something? The effect I'm after is in the roof images to the right (just got planning permission after 8 weeks of planning department hell involving us having to depict a bush! A BUSH ! This was achieved with 2 separate roof faces per roof) and the operations I have been describing are in the image to the left. Any feedback gratefully received. D Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 A nice visual. What VW version are you using & what render settings please? Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 Morning Mr Cadplan. I've often wondered how one can see what versions and graphics others are using because we fill that data in but I can't see it? I'm on 2019 SP2 Architect. I try for a bespoke watercolour effect so that our clients do not get distracted by photo realism when we are trying to get them to buy into the space and design we are creating. First off, any textures used I dumb down by exporting to Photoshop and adjusting the hue & saturation and re-import back. The windows are on Glass figured light blue. Ambient Occlusion on high. The render settings are attached....Other than that the real devil is in the detail! And the heliodon shadows of course. I can't take the credit for the render it was created for me by @Tamsin Slatter I have not included the bush which enabled the scheme to get planning for fear of embarrassing our local planning department because as everybody knows, common or garden bushes are really important to any design acceptability 🙂 I'm still none the wiser regarding the create roof rendering. 😞 D Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Hey that's great so thank you, I know that Tamsin is an expert so that must have helped a lot. I use VW2016 and may try the relevant render settings. I can't really help with your roof question, I've tended to stay away from modelling complex roofs party due to the 2016 limitations and also the time involved which for most jobs isn't economic. Thanks again Andrew Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 does 2016 include ambient occlusion in custom renderworks lighting options Andrew? Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 No I don't think it does. The render option is Realistic Exterior Fast so not the same as yours. Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 I just checked some 2016 files and I think it was included by 2016........Teapot/custom renderworks options/lighting options Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Cool, you are right, I'll try experimenting! Out of interest does 2019 have a custom folding door tool? (sorry I am taking advantage of your original roof question) Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 Not if you are after the holy grail of a tri-panneled door? 🙂 Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 By the way you haven't asked, but I would be happy to send you the 2d images of the bush which will get you a guarantee of planning approval. 🙂 Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 16 hours ago, David S said: Not if you are after the holy grail of a tri-panneled door? 🙂 Well as someone who specialises in house extensions, 50% of our jobs involve opening up the back wall of the house then adding a large ground floor extension with bifold doors bedtween 2.5m and 5.5m wide, it's embarrasing to have to tell people that VW only allows for two or four leafs. We could draw them manually but it's a faff and doesn't feel right. I've been asking Vectorworks about this for many years along with others (wishlist) but it seems to fall on deaf ears unfortunately I'll probably be packed up before it happens! Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yes. I see! . We are currently being hounded by 2 local councils to undertake "pre-apps" This is where they tell you prior to submission what they will allow, effectively shutting design doors before they have even opened. Is it the same down your way? Quote Link to comment
David S Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 The work around is a slider door with an OXO configuration @Cadplan Architecture Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 52 minutes ago, David S said: Yes. I see! . We are currently being hounded by 2 local councils to undertake "pre-apps" This is where they tell you prior to submission what they will allow, effectively shutting design doors before they have even opened. Is it the same down your way? pre apps for house extensions is largely an unporoductive and time wasting exercise so we rarely do it, we prefer to use our experience to advise clients what we think would be acceptable and then negotiate with the plkanners later if necessary Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, David S said: Hmm, it doesn't really do it though particularly if you need to show multi leaf bifods with 3D open doors Quote Link to comment
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