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After updating to 2019, when I choose page size unavailable in page setup, All the paper sizes are weird. ARCH D is 35.5 x 23.19, ARCH C is 23.5 x 17.19, ASME A is 10.5 x 7.69, etc. I have looked around at different xml files trying to see if those values are in there somewhere, no luck. Any idea on where those values come from and why they are off?

 

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The probably come from the margins of the printer you have selected or from the "worst case" options of Any Printer.

 

Try setting for a different printer and see if you get different results.

 

 

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I setup Custom Page sizes with no margins for each size needed. I then set Page Setup to "Any Printer" and choose the custom size I want. I do this so my exported PDF files are created with pages without margins being trimmed off. Mind you, I don't typically print projects directly from Vectorworks. I publish to PDF and print from that if needed. I do this to ensure what I print matches what I send to the client or printing service (PDF).

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1 hour ago, Matt Panzer said:

I setup Custom Page sizes with no margins for each size needed. I then set Page Setup to "Any Printer" and choose the custom size I want. I do this so my exported PDF files are created with pages without margins being trimmed off. Mind you, I don't typically print projects directly from Vectorworks. I publish to PDF and print from that if needed. I do this to ensure what I print matches what I send to the client or printing service (PDF).

^ this is my workflow too. It works well.

 

Kevin

 

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mm. I'm super happy setting up A3 pages that are 407.4mm x 284.3mm.. I've obviously been operating under some false ideas of standard paper sizes.
Hint. Generally (i.e. every other package) paper sizes are set to standards, and margins are subtracted from it based on printer settings. Foolish humans, obviously its best to specify pages by printable areas rather than industry standards. It makes for hilarious conversations when trying to teach others.

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23 hours ago, nick@e8urban said:

mm. I'm super happy setting up A3 pages that are 407.4mm x 284.3mm.. I've obviously been operating under some false ideas of standard paper sizes.
Hint. Generally (i.e. every other package) paper sizes are set to standards, and margins are subtracted from it based on printer settings. Foolish humans, obviously its best to specify pages by printable areas rather than industry standards. It makes for hilarious conversations when trying to teach others.

Hello @nick@e8urban,

 

If I understand correctly, you want to see the actual standard size in the Page Setup dialog and you have no issues with the created page size after closing the Page Setup dialog, as it is created now?

 

Best Regards,

Nikolay Zhelyazkov

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Incorrect.

I like specifying actual page sizes that exist in the real world and are understood by graphic designers, print shops et al. across the globe. Having worked peripherally to these industries for my professional life I understand that the printable area is a clipped area within the bounds of a standard page. What is not helpful is infinite different 'page sizes' based on the printable area of every printer in the world. especially when those infinite 'page sizes' all refer to the same size page standard (i.e. in this case A3).

A3 should always be expressed as 420 x 576mm, halved to A4, doubled to A2 etc etc etc.

Do you think its better the way it is in VW? What benefit could it possibly have in communicating to anyone else in the world but a VW user?

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8 hours ago, nick@e8urban said:

Incorrect.

I like specifying actual page sizes that exist in the real world and are understood by graphic designers, print shops et al. across the globe. Having worked peripherally to these industries for my professional life I understand that the printable area is a clipped area within the bounds of a standard page. What is not helpful is infinite different 'page sizes' based on the printable area of every printer in the world. especially when those infinite 'page sizes' all refer to the same size page standard (i.e. in this case A3).

A3 should always be expressed as 420 x 576mm, halved to A4, doubled to A2 etc etc etc.

Do you think its better the way it is in VW? What benefit could it possibly have in communicating to anyone else in the world but a VW user?

 

- I think we are talking about the same thing. Could you take a look at the image below and let me know if the suggested solution is what you are looking for?

 

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Thanks,

Nikolay Zhelyazkov

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15 hours ago, nick@e8urban said:

A3 should always be expressed as 420 x 576mm, halved to A4, doubled to A2 etc etc etc.

 

A3 is 420x297 mm.

Folding an Ax format will give a Ax+1 Format - but by flipping its aspect ratio.

(Landscape to Portrait)

Basically it is an intermediate format while you will get half length/width

by choosing Ax+2, like from A3 to A5

 

 

7 hours ago, Nikolay Zhelyazkov said:

Could you take a look at the image below and let me know if the suggested solution is what you are looking for?

 

What I don't get are the values below "Pages",

and why when edited, will destroy my printable area settings.

 

 

It can be useful to show printable size, as we know our Ax sizes already well,

when it has a proper description.

It does show correct Paper dimensions for me, like A3, when I have non-printer

Format activated.

If it isn't described as "Printable Area", and shows strange values after selecting

an Ax Format - I would immediately think someone thinking in imperial units

made a mistake in Software for translation to real units.

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