Cabinet Drawers

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

10 hours ago, Annabel Carr said:

Hi @Stephan Moenninghoff – do you guys have an expected release date for interiorcad/xs 2021 ?

 

Thanks!

Final release is scheduled for next week (week of Dec 7).

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff might it be a glitch in the software. it doesn’t matter if I select any piece (top, side, bottom, division) I only get the link that takes me to the materials editor. Take a lols at the attachment. 

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

I can see what you are doing there. You are trying to assign a one-off material. That's perfectly fine when you want one individual piece to have a different material than what has been assigned to that type of part in general. 

Try this: go to the "Construction" tab and assign a material to the shelf (or fixed shelf, I cannot really see which one it is).

That should give you what you need.

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff I ser I can change the overall meterían there but not the thickness of the piece of wood. What I want to do is to change the .787” for another price, like the one 1.496” shown in the master. 
 

I care more about the construction Thant the textures at this point, as for rendering I export it to 3DSMAX to render in Vray. 
 

Thanks for your support. 

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

It's right there:

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff sorry i see that. But how do I make my cabinet to use that piece of 1.496 instead of ,787?

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

8 minutes ago, Habitat43 said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff sorry i see that. But how do I make my cabinet to use that piece of 1.496 instead of ,787?

Click on the label-link. In the dialog that pops up, start typing the material in the search field (in your case, "Chipboard-38"). The choice of materials will narrow down as you type more characters. Double-click "Chipboard-38" and you're all set. (I sincererely hope that you are but let me now if not) 🙂

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff holly @&$&!! Lol you’re the man!!! We did it!! You’re are free of my questions.... for now 🙂

 

will I be able to request a demo of the new versions next week?

 

you know I never checked there bc when I see the word “material” I think in the texture not in the actual wood piece. Thanks a lot. 

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

1 minute ago, Habitat43 said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff holly @&$&!! Lol you’re the man!!! We did it!! You’re are free of my questions.... for now 🙂

 

will I be able to request a demo of the new versions next week?

 

you know I never checked there bc when I see the word “material” I think in the texture not in the actual wood piece. Thanks a lot. 

You are very welcome. interiorcad has always looked at materials as a combination of the actual physical material (and its thickness, cost, grain direction etc.) PLUS the Renderworks texture. We have quite a lot of users who actually produce the cabinets and parts that they model in Vectorworks so it needs to be a one-stop solution.

Anyway, thanks for persevering. I think you have identified a few places where our UX is plain lousy and I have an idea how to fix that.

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

6 minutes ago, Habitat43 said:

will I be able to request a demo of the new versions next week?

Yeah, should be ok. Message me off list and I will put something together for you.

[Annabel Carr]

12 hours ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

Final release is scheduled for next week (week of Dec 7).

Great – thank you!

[Kevin K]

Stephan

This is slightly off topic, but still relevant.

You seem to be the go to person for anything InteriorCad, so I have a burning question, and have had this question for about 18 years now.

How is it InteriorCad can control the direction of wood grain around door and drawer profiles/frames and VW can't?

I will say this is soooo irritating and disappointing to me,  and quite frankly, the main reason I did not upgrade to VW 2021. I do a lot of rendering and it is beyond the pale that when dealing with door and window casing/trim that has a wood grained texture, you can choose either a horizontal or vertical direction for the direction of the texture.....which is untenable.

 

Wood grain on a horizontal piece of trim does NOT run vertically. Maybe on Earth 2, but not in our world.

There are painful workarounds to resolve this, but I refuse to take all the time necessary to procure that. I have brought this up for years to the VW powers that be and I still have not received a coherent response as to why this situation has not been addressed. Honestly, it cheapens exponentially the software, which basically is a very good product,  in my view.

I thought you may have some sage advice regarding this situation, since I can't get diddly-squat from the folks at VW.

If you can possibly shed some light on this, I will gladly reward you by sending you that 3d greek salad you had commented on. :-)

 

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff I'm back to hunt you.  Will I be able to create cabinet doors like the one attached in the new release?  Thanks,

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

18 hours ago, Habitat43 said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff I'm back to hunt you.  Will I be able to create cabinet doors like the one attached in the new release?  Thanks,

Yes. 100%

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

20 hours ago, Kevin K said:

Stephan

This is slightly off topic, but still relevant.

You seem to be the go to person for anything InteriorCad, so I have a burning question, and have had this question for about 18 years now.

How is it InteriorCad can control the direction of wood grain around door and drawer profiles/frames and VW can't?

I will say this is soooo irritating and disappointing to me,  and quite frankly, the main reason I did not upgrade to VW 2021. I do a lot of rendering and it is beyond the pale that when dealing with door and window casing/trim that has a wood grained texture, you can choose either a horizontal or vertical direction for the direction of the texture.....which is untenable.

 

Wood grain on a horizontal piece of trim does NOT run vertically. Maybe on Earth 2, but not in our world.

There are painful workarounds to resolve this, but I refuse to take all the time necessary to procure that. I have brought this up for years to the VW powers that be and I still have not received a coherent response as to why this situation has not been addressed. Honestly, it cheapens exponentially the software, which basically is a very good product,  in my view.

I thought you may have some sage advice regarding this situation, since I can't get diddly-squat from the folks at VW.

If you can possibly shed some light on this, I will gladly reward you by sending you that 3d greek salad you had commented on. 🙂

 

Kevin, the answer is quite simple:- interiorcad's objects are all designed to be actually manufactured. Therefore, grain direction is absolutely crucial to every single piece because if you flip grain direction for a piece, its length and width will also flip in the parts list. Vectorworks' doors are not designed to be manufactured so the focus is not on that level of detail. Evidently, Vectorworks has been focusing more on interior design of late and I imagine that comments from interior designers might lead to some improvements in this area.

[jgmrussell]

Hi Stephan & group,

I am a long time user of icad. I so glad that you are hear to answer questions that may arise. I am anxiously waiting for 2021 and I'm sure we'll all have some favorite questions/comments. Thanks for being here...

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff thanks!!! With bevel corners? That would be amazing 🙂

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

2 minutes ago, Habitat43 said:

@Stephan Moenninghoff thanks!!! With bevel corners? That would be amazing 🙂

What is a bevel corner to you? We support custom profiles for both inside and outside edges of a stile or rail. You can make that a bevel.

[Kevin K]

Stephan

Well....thanks for the explanation....although I am personally not letting VW off the hook. I have the feeling that they are very aware of the issue.  They just don't like talking about it.

That said, as promised, here is your 3d greek salad.  Not sure if you use c4d, but I included that file as well.  Still another mystery to me why the VW file is 5 times larger that the c4d version.....another mystery for another day. 

Enjoy your salad!  :-)

 

 

GREEK SALAD V2020.vwx GREEK SALAD.c4d

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

37 minutes ago, Kevin K said:

Enjoy your salad!  🙂

Thank you! I will!

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff please disregard all the questions I sent you to your inbox, didn't notice I was sending them to your inbox directly.  I was able to resolve everything except for the hidden line rendering.  It is still looking like this:

 

Also, how would you create a L shape (corner) cabinet?

 

Thanks for all the help.

[Stephan Moenninghoff]

Ah, it looks like the class that the profiles are kept in needs to be hidden in the viewport. Look for "XG-Custom Part Routing-Profile" and hide it. We have also identified a problem whereby profiles get applied to the wrong part if you have more than one frame in the same cabinet. This will be resolved soon. I will post a new build once it's done!

 

You cannot create L-shaped cabinets with the current version. It is one of the bigger stories we will tackle for the forthcoming releases. (not just L-shaped cabinets. Corner situations in general).

[Habitat43]

@Stephan Moenninghoff thanks!! it was a good start point and I was able to make it work. 

 

About the profile being "inside", what I had to do was to change the 4 rails to a thinner measurement, from 2.5" to 1.5" and that made the trick! after that I can go back to 2.5" and still works.  Don't know if this makes any sense.

 

BTW, is there anyway to only create one door?

 

Thanks!!

[Nicolas Goutte]

10 minutes ago, Habitat43 said:

BTW, is there anyway to only create one door?

 

If you mean just the door, without cabinet, just disable the parts in the corpus, the back and whatever might be generated.

 

Be careful of your measures in that case.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Nicolas Goutte

[Annabel Carr]

On 12/2/2020 at 7:15 PM, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

Final release is scheduled for next week (week of Dec 7).

 

Hi @Stephan Moenninghoff – just checking in on an updated 2021 release schedule?

 

Thanks!