Ungrouping not working in 2019 (SP1) pc

[VellumDesignBuild]

Is anyone else having issues ungrouping groups? I have tried shortcuts and using the ungroup function from the toolbar but I can not get grouped items to ungroup. My current workaround is to go into the group, select all, copy, exit group, delete the group, paste in place. 

 

Ironically, I can ungroup exploded object/symbols.  My issue only allies to groups I create.

 

Does anyone know what the issue is?

 

[VellumDesignBuild]

This is still an issue with 2019 SP3.  Still waiting to better updates before moving the office over to 2019.  Less bugs with 2018, so I'd convert back down and work from there.

[PVA - Admin]

This is working perfectly fine here and I am not able to replicate this issue. Did you already speak with tech@vectorworks.net about this? If not, I recommend doing so.

[VellumDesignBuild]

I can replicate this about 50% of the time.  Not sure where the bug is, but have just grown used to going into the group and copying what I need. then exiting the group, delete the group, and then paste in place.  Huge time suck.  Very reluctant to move projects to 2019.  I was very excited for SP3, but still, the issue remains.  I emailed tech the file to see what they say.

 

1. Draw a bunch of stuff.

2. Make a group of stuff

3. Copy the group

4. Paste the group

5. Try to ungroup group… not working.  ☹

[Kevin McAllister]

I remember having a group I couldn't ungroup. I couldn't reproduce it again afterwards. What type of objects do your groups contain? Are you working in 2d or 3d? Does it happen in the design layers and the sheet layers?

 

Kevin

 

[VellumDesignBuild]

2D objects in the design layer.  Simple objects like rectangles with fills and hatches.  Old school 2d exterior elevations.

 

[VellumDesignBuild]

Vectorworks got back to me and here is what they did to get things to ungroup. 😃

It seems like I set up a bad default setting at some point.   After resetting the default, I was able to get things working again. 

 

Quote

"In Vectorworks, when we go to ungroup items with Class Information, we can receive a dialogue asking if we want to ungroup such groups.  If we check the "always choose this option" button, and then hit No, we won't be able to ungroup items like this going forward. The only way around this is to go into our Vectorworks Preferences (Tools > Options > Vectorworks Preferences), and then into the Session Tab.  In here, you can choose the Reset Saved Settings option, which will reset all of those checkboxes."

 

Edited April 22, 2019 by VellumDesignBuild

[Art V]

It's one of those features that can haunt you later when you have forgotten about making some setting the default.

 

Maybe VW could have an option to show a message in the status bar for such settings that setting X is by default set to Y and therefore cannot perform operation Z on the selection.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Art V

[VellumDesignBuild]

That seems like a useful prompt, and one that would probably be easy to implement.

[John D]

I'm having the same issue.

 

It seemed at first to be a problem if I first tried Command+U to ungroup (which did not ungroup it) and then I would right click and select "ungroup" and still did not ungroup. So then its select all, cut, exit group, paste in place.  

 

But if I didn't try Command+U first, right clicking and selecting ungroup would work. 

 

Not anymore though. I can't get groups to ungroup themselves at all now in any way. Remarkable what a pain it is! 

 

 

 

[VellumDesignBuild]

John, It sounds like you may have checked a setting box at one time that disables some features of the ungroup command. Go into our Vectorworks Preferences (Tools > Options > Vectorworks Preferences), and then into the Session Tab.  In there, you can choose the Reset Saved Settings option, which will reset that.